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« Reply #100 on: September 27, 2015, 09:42:42 AM »

Bavaria should annex it Putin-style.

Oh please do.
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« Reply #101 on: September 27, 2015, 09:53:05 AM »

After seeing this, the nuke it is.

Municipality of Moosbach (District of Braunau)

FPÖ - 50,66%
ÖVP - 33,06%
SPÖ - 7,73%
NEOS - 3,95%
Grüne - 3,78%

Council election:

FPÖ - 6 (56%!!)
ÖVP - 4 (32%)
SPÖ - 1 (12%)

Mayoral election:

FPÖ-candidate: 92%
NOTA - 8%
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« Reply #102 on: September 27, 2015, 10:02:32 AM »

After seeing this, the nuke it is.

Municipality of Moosbach (District of Braunau)
St. Georgen am Fillmannsbach, just in, has an even higher FPÖ percentage: 56.63% Tongue


That name just cries "hicksville" Tongue

Is it district Braunau or Ried im Innkreis?
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« Reply #103 on: September 27, 2015, 10:09:19 AM »

That name just cries "hicksville" Tongue

Is it district Braunau or Ried im Innkreis?
Haha yeah, these names are extremely LOL. It's near Braunau (not a surprise Tongue) and not near Ried, so I assume it's in Braunau district as well, though I don't know where I could find this.

That should be on top of the page at the ORF results website, I guess.
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« Reply #104 on: September 27, 2015, 10:14:01 AM »

These names though Tongue

St. Georgen am Fillmansbach
St. Stefan am Walde
St. Oswald bei Haslach
Vorderweißenbach
St. Pantaleon
Bad Wimsbach-Neydharting

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« Reply #105 on: September 27, 2015, 10:19:17 AM »

Isn't the (in)famous town of Fycking also in this area?

Yes, it's not a muncipality of its own though, but part of Tarsdorf municipality in Branau district.
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« Reply #106 on: September 27, 2015, 12:15:16 PM »

The FPÖ also won Schärding district by now, by even a larger margin than Braunau (38% FPÖ - 35% ÖVP)
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« Reply #107 on: October 03, 2015, 03:52:44 PM »

What would happen if the ÖVP overtook the SPÖ in seats? Would they have to swap out Feynman?

Unless the ÖVP ends the coalition, nothing really.
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« Reply #108 on: October 11, 2015, 11:23:08 AM »

Obviously I very much like this Cheesy
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« Reply #109 on: October 11, 2015, 11:25:52 AM »

Looking at the precinct map - what is up in Innere Stadt? ÖVP/FPÖ vote splitting leading to the SPÖ of all parties winning there the most precincts?
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« Reply #110 on: October 11, 2015, 11:34:02 AM »

Yeah, it seems like many ÖVP voters went SPÖ this time because they didn't want the FPÖ to become the largest party. Interesting. Not the expected electoral earthquake, yet quite a stable situation compared to last time: Vienna is simply Vienna, I suppose. Everything below 33% will be underwhelming and disappointing for the FPÖ, I think.

Some more SPÖ voters will have come from the Greens too, I suppose, Bobostan appears very unusually red this time as well.

But yes, this very disappointing for the FPÖ - if you listened to them, they seriously believed they could make Strache mayor. 30% is weak for them in the current climate, that's about even with their OÖ result.
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« Reply #111 on: October 11, 2015, 11:35:31 AM »

How the hell do they count this fast? I count votes myself every election, and that definitely takes at least two hours.

There are probably many people counting them, I suppose. Also, precincts are not exactly that big.
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« Reply #112 on: October 11, 2015, 11:36:49 AM »

Innere Stadt has gone to the SPÖ, first full district in.

Lol, Ursula Stenzl
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« Reply #113 on: October 11, 2015, 11:45:36 AM »

What I don't understand... these are elections for both the Gemeinderat and the Landtag? The ORF website says that the prognosis is for the Gemeinderat - does this mean that the Landtag will be different, or is it one and the same entity...?

The Gemeindrat is the Landtag in Vienna. It's the same entity, so.
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« Reply #114 on: October 11, 2015, 12:00:20 PM »

Turnout is approaching 74% (+6%) - which is probably the best thing today.

In a city of 2 million people to have 74% turnout is remarkable these days.

I would rather say the FPÖ having a result significantly below their poll numbers and the likely continuation of Red-Green is the best thing, but that's probably just the left-leftist me Tongue
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« Reply #115 on: October 11, 2015, 02:11:29 PM »


Oh yes! It's the first in a long time that I'm actually enjoying Austrian election results Tongue
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« Reply #116 on: October 12, 2015, 12:08:07 AM »

how is the demographic and social conditions in the east art of the city? which I see the FPO carried

I see the OVP at under 10% that must be the all time lowest

The districts on the east bank of the Danube, Floridsdorf and Donaustadt, are mostly suburban; there is a bit of urban development (UNO-City, Donauturm...) along the river, but on their outer parts there are many yet completely undeveloped parts, and suburban villages among them. They are mostly lower to lower-middle class suburbs; the richer ones are found on the west side, among the hills of the Wienerwald.

Sub-national entities having "constitutions" is weird.

It seems, from a short look, it's practically just stating which districts there are and what the Gemeinderat and the mayor are allowed to do. It's an Austrian constitution though, meaning it's not worth the paper it's written on - the 2/3 majority is regularly used to make some laws that other parties support not so easy to override. That's what Strache meant with it, that this won't be possible without FPÖ-support.
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« Reply #117 on: October 17, 2015, 04:09:08 AM »


That's what people voted for, if he wants to go against the party line and appear at FPÖ events to discuss about "privileged homosexuals, women and migrants" he should at least stand in an election.

Exactly. The Greens are a party of "left-leftist" thinking, Tender, and no whining will ever change that. If it had been the other way round - he being an FPÖ-politician but sympathising with the Greens - he would have been "axed" long ago, so why should the Greens continue to support him?

Great to see a new Austrian, by the way, Flocke, especially one with a Socialist avatar Tongue
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« Reply #118 on: October 17, 2015, 01:35:10 PM »

Just some more info here:

Efgani Dönmez was not "axed", he was merely not reelected by the Upper Austrian Greens leadership. Seats in the Bundesrat are proportioned by state, and within the state, according to a party's result in the last state election. State party leadership thus elects the number of Bundesrat MPs allotted to the party after each election - and they chose another, younger guy over Dönmez this time, unsurprisingly given some of his remarks which were quite out of party line, and at times blatantly homophobic.

He was not "axed" or expelled from the party or whatever, it was a plain, normal party vote.

By the way, no one in Austria but Tender seems to care about this, I had to search directly for it to even hear about it.
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« Reply #119 on: October 18, 2015, 02:02:51 AM »

Just some more info here:

Efgani Dönmez was not "axed", he was merely not reelected by the Upper Austrian Greens leadership. Seats in the Bundesrat are proportioned by state, and within the state, according to a party's result in the last state election. State party leadership thus elects the number of Bundesrat MPs allotted to the party after each election - and they chose another, younger guy over Dönmez this time, unsurprisingly given some of his remarks which were quite out of party line, and at times blatantly homophobic.

He was not "axed" or expelled from the party or whatever, it was a plain, normal party vote.

By the way, no one in Austria but Tender seems to care about this, I had to search directly for it to even hear about it.

Judging by the 1.000 or so comments on the "Standard", it is certainly an interesting topic for readers.

And most of the commenters have a view similar to me, which is quite a bit surprising for the left-liberal Standard forum community.

Also, you are saying it was only a "party vote", not an "axing". That's a point of view, but the way they did it it looked more like an axing. The Green leadership in Upper Austria just waited for the next best opportunity to kick him out of the Bundesrat and replace him with someone else. Contrary to the procedure of other Bundesrat members, who often serve there for 20 years and they always get their term extended by their party leadership, as they are literally glued to their seats ... Not so with Dönmez, he simply got eradicated by the Green leadership for being "critical" to their holy (sometimes dangerous) leftist worldview.

Well no, they vote for the Bundesrat MPs after every state election, if you want to call that "the next best opportunity" so be it. He repeatedly stated homophobic and xenophobic remarks, in contrast to the party's official line, so that's why they did not vote for him again. As easy as that. Stop making a witchhunt out of a non-issue.
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« Reply #120 on: October 18, 2015, 02:20:08 AM »

Well, it might be entirely legitimate for the Greens to say goodbye to him, but it might simultaneously be entirely legitimate for Tender to draw his own conclusions from that fact.

Of course, but it is just as legitimate for me to not take them seriously if he talks about a "night of long knives".
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