Overtime Politics Thread (WARNING: Possible fraud)

[mds32]

How is that possible? I can expect perhaps West Virginia Democrats to do that but not Arkansas'.

[mds32]

Hahahaha. I think we might have a Worst Poll of the Year contender here folks!

As well as Worst New Pollster.

Ha finally y'all are willing to cut Gravis a break.

[mds32]

I agree that this pollster is probably not a good one. At the same time I just laugh at some of the things these people will say to any poll that shows Clinton even slightly competitive.

[mds32]

I wonder what the GOP total will be.

I think Cruz might actually lead Trump here.

[mds32]

Well, their Vermont poll is coming out on Tuesday, so at this rate I expect Sanders to earn at least 60%.

I think they are covering every state up to super Tuesday. Where is Virginia, where is Alabama? Oklahoma!!!!

Oklahoma I can see being close since we have other polls confirming that race being somewhat competitive.

[mds32]

I see Arkansas at worst for Clinton being 59-34 against Sanders. That's the worst it could get from what I see. How 47-42 happened I don't know.

[mds32]

Yet they don't release a GOP Colorado or Tennessee poll.

[mds32]

Don't you think you are going overboard now?

[mds32]

Sanders hasn't polled worse than 35 percent in any of these OT polls, and they're polling entirely assumed safe Clinton states, not NE/pacific coast states. For us to buy these, he'd have to be up nationally.

No even better, he was down in MA in their poll of the state.

[mds32]

http://overtimepolitics.com/overnight-emails-and-a-few-questions-answered/

Did you guys send them profane emails??

No I think it is actually funny how these polls are bothering so many people lol.

[mds32]

Oh stop it. In fact, that result in WV would be MORE generous to Clinton than other polls of the state - the last poll there had her up only 4 points.

That is true, but that was with Biden in the race and he was in fact ahead of Sanders.

I think Sanders could get 40% in WV.

[mds32]

Oh stop it. In fact, that result in WV would be MORE generous to Clinton than other polls of the state - the last poll there had her up only 4 points.

That is true, but that was with Biden in the race and he was in fact ahead of Sanders.

I think Sanders could get 40% in WV.

No, it was w/out Biden:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016#cite_note-http:.2F.2Fwww.wvgazettemail.com-154

No the last one was with Biden.
https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016D/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=5420150827106

[mds32]

That's a reasonable result. Cruz closing with Trump still ahead.

[mds32]

If all of you think this pollster is such a phony why are you giving them the attention that they want. I am sure most of the other pollsters would enjoy having over 50 comments on their polls if you think they are actual pollsters, unlike here where many think Overtimepolitics is not.

[mds32]

On the recommendation of Ebsy, I suggest since we are divided ton the accuracy of Overtime Politics and the many questions it, along with the fact that they frequently release polls, we should post each of the GOP and Democratic polls from Overtime Politics below on this thread.

This is a good idea. However, I contemplate it because now someone will want a WAA thread and a Gravis Thread....

[mds32]

They should have race and gender. Those are two very important demographics.

[mds32]

Overtime Politics is set to release their Vermont polling today, it could be a good test to see if they are super pro-Bernie or not, if they have Bernie with a narrow lead or even a Hillary lead in VT then we will see they are not biased towards him.

All that would prove is that they're joke pollster. Bernie probably has a massive lead in Vermont.

Right that would just prove they are not good at all. If Sanders is still in the race VT is almost a sure lock for him. Especially since it is voting "early" in the nomination process.

[mds32]

Overtime Politics is set to release their Vermont polling today, it could be a good test to see if they are super pro-Bernie or not, if they have Bernie with a narrow lead or even a Hillary lead in VT then we will see they are not biased towards him.

I'd also like to see some GOP polls from VT.

I don't know if you want them from this company. I could imagine Trump or Rubio leading a Vermont GOP poll.

[mds32]

All previous polls merged into this one, because it really is a dubious pollster ...

Wow I was wondering how the thread got so big all of the sudden! Thanks it clears up the rest of the page some for the other companies.

[mds32]

dem - vt http://overtimepolitics.com/pollingdata/OvertimePolitics.comDec24-27DemocraticPrimaryPoll-Vermont.pdf

Believable, but with no other demographic questions I truly have to wonder.

[mds32]

http://overtimepolitics.com/trump-leads-rubio-32-21-in-vermont/

Donald Trump – 114 – 32%
Marco Rubio – 75 – 21%
Ted Cruz – 53 – 15%
Ben Carson – 28 – 8%
Jeb Bush – 18 – 5%
Rand Paul – 14 – 4%
Carly Fiorina – 7 – 2%
Chris Christie – 5 – 1%
John Kasich – 4 – 1%
Other – 7 – 2%
Undecided – 32 – 9%

It would be amazing to see what would happen if they had questions with gender/age and such. Perhaps the results would be even more accurate. Here we actually see the evidence that the Establishment candidates are keeping Rubio back some in NH.

In NH Rubio has a organized campaign running and he is averaging around 12-14%. If Rubio had a organized machine running in VT without the other "establishment" candidates in the race Rubio could be tied up or even lead Trump in at least this state.

[mds32]

At least we can see what the demographics are of the polls.

[mds32]

They are set to release Oklahoma polls tonight. Which is odd, considering it is NYE they would put them out earlier in the day. Either way we might see a Cruz lead in the GOP poll if they are not controlling for anything.

[mds32]

^They aren't starting demographic questions until their Michigan poll on the 4th.

I know, which means that this poll and their other poll that will come out later are not trustworthy. However, I think the Oklahoma poll has a chance of Cruz leading just because it is the neighboring state and anything can happen when you aren't measuring the demographics of the respondents.

[mds32]

I expected Missouri to be somewhat close due to it being almost entirely white outside of its most urban areas, but this close?!? Wow, Go Sanders!

Careful, you're entering jfern territory!

Are all Hillary supporters obnoxious hacks?

Basically