How long before Ben Toma is in Trump's crosshairs? I've said many times Trump isn't gonna cede a critical battleground state, and if he sees these as an electoral obstacle, he will fight tooth and nail to get rid of it. And god be damned to anyone that gets in his way.
I don't think you are grasping how anti-abortion people think about this issue. Ben Toma literally thinks the Holocaust just ended and it's up to him not to restart it. He won't care if Trump insults him for it.
If Arizonans want legal abortion, they will have to vote in Democratic governors, legislators, and judges forever. There's no more Roe safety net. Any time Republicans take power in most states, abortion is going to become illegal, because to them it's literally a life and death issue and they don't care about the long term electoral consequences.
You are describing an evangelicon and not every Republican is one of them. Many Republicans support compromise laws like 15-weeks and don't think of this as "the Holocaust".
Without Evangelicals the GOP is dead. They have to keep them in the fold or they have no electoral future.
If the GOP loses evangelicals, then that would finally give them the go ahead to drop the wedge issues that no one cares about. There are countless number of center to center-right voters who agree with most GOP policies but get turned away by the evangelicals. May cause short term pain but long term gain. Only question is where do the evangelicals ultimately go?
You seem to misunderstand the relationship. Evangelicals aren’t republicans, republicans are evangelicals. In much of the south, Midwest and plains the republican party is majority evangelical. They quite literally would cease to exist in any meaningful way if they loose those states.
Ehh. White Evangelicals; sure. But Evangelicals as a whole ( if we hold to the classic definition of evangelical christianity ) are getting more diverse, and they're less liekly to vote Republican, if at all.
https://theconversation.com/evangelical-christians-are-racially-diverse-and-hold-diverse-views-on-immigration-102329How long before Ben Toma is in Trump's crosshairs? I've said many times Trump isn't gonna cede a critical battleground state, and if he sees these as an electoral obstacle, he will fight tooth and nail to get rid of it. And god be damned to anyone that gets in his way.
I don't think you are grasping how anti-abortion people think about this issue. Ben Toma literally thinks the Holocaust just ended and it's up to him not to restart it. He won't care if Trump insults him for it.
If Arizonans want legal abortion, they will have to vote in Democratic governors, legislators, and judges forever. There's no more Roe safety net. Any time Republicans take power in most states, abortion is going to become illegal, because to them it's literally a life and death issue and they don't care about the long term electoral consequences.
You are describing an evangelicon and not every Republican is one of them. Many Republicans support compromise laws like 15-weeks and don't think of this as "the Holocaust".
Without Evangelicals the GOP is dead. They have to keep them in the fold or they have no electoral future.
If the GOP loses evangelicals, then that would finally give them the go ahead to drop the wedge issues that no one cares about. There are countless number of center to center-right voters who agree with most GOP policies but get turned away by the evangelicals. May cause short term pain but long term gain. Only question is where do the evangelicals ultimately go?
You seem to misunderstand the relationship. Evangelicals aren’t republicans, republicans are evangelicals. In much of the south, Midwest and plains the republican party is majority evangelical. They quite literally would cease to exist in any meaningful way if they loose those states.
Evangelicals weren't a political force until the mid-70s when they were an important part of the Carter Coalition. It was during the 80s that the evangelicals started to migrate to the GOP. The evangelical-dominated plains region had been voting Republican long before then. There was a farm recession in the 1940s under FDR than caused the Plains to flip to the GOP.
Party coalitions do change and evangelicals leaving the GOP would be a massive shift in American politics. But there are plenty of demographics of people that could fill in that gap. The Northeast, for example, was once a GOP stronghold. It was the evangelical swing of the GOP that cost them the region. But even to this day, there is a fiscally conservative bent in these states. Why do you think people like Chris Sununu, Phil Scott, Charlie Baker, Larry Hogan, etc are popular in their respective states? None of them are running on abortion bans or Christian nationalism. They focus on broadly popular kitchen table issues that appeal to everyone.
So that would be the clear path forward for a secularized GOP. And I think it be much better for healing our national divisions if the parties focused solely on the economic and not the cultural issues.
I would argue that the GOP is already quite secularized, and it is more akin to the secular far right populists in Europe.
https://www.lsu.edu/research/news/2020/1109-unchurched.php"Christian nationalism is thought to have been an important factor in the election of Donald Trump as President of the United States in 2016—and likely drove many of his supporters to the polls in 2020. Now, new research shows Christian nationalist support of Trump isn’t tied to religious institutions or attending church on a regular basis. Instead, it’s tied to not attending church."
We have seen meanwhile a inverse in the Democratic Party with figures such as Senator Raphael Warnock, the Rev. William Barber opining a more religous progressive world view.
