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jojoju1998
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« on: February 07, 2023, 01:15:25 PM »

I still think her biggest problem is just not being known at all.  A lot of Democrats don't really have an opinion one way or the other, and that's odd because she's the first woman Vice President.  You'd think that the first would be somebody more known to the public, since it would seem natural that she'd be a successor. 

Maybe she's just going to be like most of the men that came before her and be someone that was just there and not really have much significance.

I don't see her as winning the party's nomination in the future for POTUS unless there's absolutely nobody else to choose from.  By the time 2028 comes around, there will be new national figures for the party.

Biden was well known as VP.
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jojoju1998
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2023, 03:13:09 PM »

To add on to my previous post, the extreme hostility we see toward Kamala Harris (on this forum, but also elsewhere online) is interesting to me. It's unclear how specifically she's "unqualified" or how she's demonstrated "incompetence" when she has a job with no power and no responsibilities and (as mentioned previously) her background is similar to that of other vice presidents. The obvious difference here is the idea that she got her job just based on the identity boxes she checks off.

The people who feel this way have obvious justification in that they can point to what the Biden campaign actually said. I don't recall these sorts of criticisms of Kamala Harris being leveled in the same way when she ran for president, because then she was running against a bunch of candidates who weren't black women whom she would have to defeat. It may have been strategically useful for the Biden campaign to say that it was going to choose a black woman as its running mate, but doing so preemptively destroyed the credibility of anyone who might be chosen.

Sometimes you see the suggestion that Biden should have chosen a different black woman instead of Kamala Harris and that would have been better. I find that hard to believe. My recollection is that the other candidates who were regularly mentioned were Val Demings, Stacey Abrams, and Susan Rice. None of those three have ever won a statewide election and only Demings has ever been elected to a higher position than state legislator. Does anyone really believe that any of them would be seen as less of a token selection?

Suppose that the Biden campaign had chosen Kamala Harris without announcing that it would select a black woman and after suggesting that a variety of Democrats of different backgrounds would be considered. This wouldn't change the issues that Kamala Harris has had as vice president in terms of being disconnected from her base and lacking strong allies in Washington, but I think that there would be less hostility toward her in general because she wouldn't be seen in the same way as having been advanced without merit.

Almost every VP is chosen because he checks some boxes which are irrelevant to his ability to govern.
Pence was chosen because as an ultra-conservative Christian would assuage Evangelicals.
Biden was chosen because he was an old white guy who would balance Obama.

Also Biden had foreign policy experience, and experience in Congress.
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