Inflation is crushing rural America

[jojoju1998]

I do believe many left-wing voters (around the world, but especially in this country) secretly hold serious contempt for rural areas, their lifestyles, and their values, and therefore see any sort of negative development in rural America that pushes it’s populace to urban areas as a good thing, where they can accept urban, progressive values.

Well... with all fairness, rural america doesn't seem to like the urban culture of the Left Wing either.

Both sides think their " culture " is the best.


That being said, both sides have more in common than what the Mainstream media tells us.

Bob from Arkansas has more in common with Will from Compton than he does with Millionaire Mitt Romney.... or Billionaire Donald Trump.

[jojoju1998]

I do believe many left-wing voters (around the world, but especially in this country) secretly hold serious contempt for rural areas, their lifestyles, and their values, and therefore see any sort of negative development in rural America that pushes it’s populace to urban areas as a good thing, where they can accept urban, progressive values.

I would argue it works both ways and it’s extremely toxic and messed up, especially when partisan media sources degrade these entire communities it does a great disservice to our nation. And a lot of “outreach” to these communities is just optical and not genuine.

We have more in common than we think.

Which was why I wanted Sherrod Brown to run in 2020 in the first place, because I thought he could be an effective communicator of progressive idaes to a rural America, without sacrificing progressivism.

[jojoju1998]

The proliferation of very fuel inefficient $50k+ pickup trucks says that they could easily bring down their inflation exposure a large degree by not needing something to magnify the small peen.

Most new trucks are relatively good with Gas. And Ford is launching an electric version of the 150.

I do believe many left-wing voters (around the world, but especially in this country) secretly hold serious contempt for rural areas, their lifestyles, and their values, and therefore see any sort of negative development in rural America that pushes it’s populace to urban areas as a good thing, where they can accept urban, progressive values.

A few things here:

1. You can have contempt for someone on a personal level, and still want to ensure that their material needs are met, because they are fellow human beings.

2. Urbanization is a good thing in and of itself, for economic and climate reasons, and has nothing to do with cultural issues.

Yeah but the economic flows into the cultural.

White collar jobs. Higher advanced degrees. Multiculturalism. Globalism. It all goes together.

[jojoju1998]

I do believe many left-wing voters (around the world, but especially in this country) secretly hold serious contempt for rural areas, their lifestyles, and their values, and therefore see any sort of negative development in rural America that pushes it’s populace to urban areas as a good thing, where they can accept urban, progressive values.

Many of us grew up in areas that made us feel unwelcome and pushed us out for being too gay, the wrong color, not Christian or the right kind of Christian, too interested in books, too ambitious, not into the same sports and music they loved. And when we moved to cities to build a new life, they blame us for not loving and respecting them from afar and because they don’t have the same standard of living after they chased out anyone with any ambition or who was different in any way and saw the jobs go with us.

Rural victim complex is so boring. Your problems are self-inflicted. My hometown is worse off because I and many of my friends left - but they didn’t want me to be there as a gay man.

And to be honest, the only culture wars have come from the Right Wing.

[jojoju1998]

Those same rural voters will deliver a GOP Congress that will immediately pass tax cuts for the rich. So why is there such a huge disconnect between what their reality is and and what their politcal action and advocacy is?

The GOP isn't the party passing massive spending and relief check packages that are driving inflation through the roof. It's no coincidence that inflation spiked massively right after Biden's American Rescue Plan. And thank god for Manchin for stopping BBB, which would have made it even worse.

The Same GOP who then bragged about the Benefits of the Plan to their constituents.

https://www.businessinsider.com/wicker-praises-covid-19-relief-funding-after-voting-against-bill-2021-3?amp

[jojoju1998]

Those same rural voters will deliver a GOP Congress that will immediately pass tax cuts for the rich. So why is there such a huge disconnect between what their reality is and and what their politcal action and advocacy is?

I wonder about this all the time. You put the question clearly.

Republicans frame the tax cuts as tax cuts for the small business owner, which is a classic republican constituency.

Why need a college education when you can start your own business and not depend on Government or an employer to make a living ?

[jojoju1998]

Those same rural voters will deliver a GOP Congress that will immediately pass tax cuts for the rich. So why is there such a huge disconnect between what their reality is and and what their politcal action and advocacy is?

I wonder about this all the time. You put the question clearly.

Republicans frame the tax cuts as tax cuts for the small business owner, which is a classic republican constituency.

Why need a college education when you can start your own business and not depend on Government or an employer to make a living ?

Because it's not all about business. People matter just as much or more, than the business community. I believe the business sector should serve the people they get their money from, not just take the whole pie for themselves.

You misunderstand me.

In the rural republican mindset, small business owners are the people. They make up probably 50 percent of the town. The small shops. The realtor. The self
Employed electricians. Main Street. Skilled tradesmen.

In Marxist theory, people call them the petty bourgeoise.

Compare these people to say the democratic base. White collar workers. Tech workers. Professionals. They are more cosmopolitan.

[jojoju1998]

Those same rural voters will deliver a GOP Congress that will immediately pass tax cuts for the rich. So why is there such a huge disconnect between what their reality is and and what their politcal action and advocacy is?

I wonder about this all the time. You put the question clearly.

Republicans frame the tax cuts as tax cuts for the small business owner, which is a classic republican constituency.

Why need a college education when you can start your own business and not depend on Government or an employer to make a living ?

Because it's not all about business. People matter just as much or more, than the business community. I believe the business sector should serve the people they get their money from, not just take the whole pie for themselves.

You misunderstand me.

In the rural republican mindset, small business owners are the people. They make up probably 50 percent of the town. The small shops. The realtor. The self
Employed electricians. Main Street. Skilled tradesmen.

In Marxist theory, people call them the petty bourgeoise.

Compare these people to say the democratic base. White collar workers. Tech workers. Professionals. They are more cosmopolitan.

OK. That's interesting. And who is the other 50%?

The rise of automation and off shoring in the late 1990s wiped out the least skilled of the “ petty “ bourgeoise aka the other 50 percent. Often times, in many small towns, you would only have one factory that becomes the main economic engine for the town, but once that factory  falls, everything else falls.

These people are highly resistant to change because it’s all they know. Their skilled job is all they know. The old economy IS the culture. It became the culture.

In many urban and suburban areas, the pressure from the public schools is so high because you’re being pushed to constantly update yourself, to
Constantly open your mind to meet the demands of the 21st century economy. Compare Austin Texas to Youngstown Ohio.

Two different economies. Two different cultures. One feeds the other.

[jojoju1998]

The problem with inflation is that they've been caused largely by too authoritarian covid measures that did both restrict 1. freedom of movement and people and 2. the economy.

And everyone used to be so much in favour of that, and it might literally be one of the most evil things done by politicians worldwide in the entire 21st century.

We now have a big economic crisis. Sure, inflation isn't Joe Biden's fault. But it was mostly liberals and left-wingers who pushed hard for authoritarian covid measures globally. In the USA the measures weren't as authoritarian because Trump and Republicans initially were very much against those, and Democrats weren't able to push their agenda on that matter.

Trump was ridiculed for covid handling, but his handling of covid in hindsight might be the best thing he has done in his first term.

And Rural America and the “ old “ economy is more affected by lockdowns than well…/
The democratic base.


A sales manager can work at home. A Machinist well can’t. A factory has to deal with supply chains. Facebook doesn’t.

[jojoju1998]

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This is posted like it's some sort of "gotcha" that owns the dumb rubes but, really, if the liberal movement in this country had any sort of non-braindead answer to this question they'd probably be able to consistently hold federal or even statewide power.

 It's not a gotcha because we know the answer. Too many of these voters vote their cultural biases and prejudices as study after study shows. Why they do that is a different question.

 When the other half of the GOP "tax cuts for the rich" platform is a constant fearmongering about nonsense "threats" like CRT, Sharia Law, LGBT, Trans bathrooms bills, anti-Feminism, criminalizing Abortion, or whatever their latest boogeyman is you can't say it's liberals faults for not having better messaging. These rural voters are adults and this is what they choose to support.

The old economy is their culture and it feeds into the cycle

We say “ Trump passes tax cuts for the rich “.

They think “ Trump passes tax cuts for skilled tradesmen and small business owners like me ! “

[jojoju1998]

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This is posted like it's some sort of "gotcha" that owns the dumb rubes but, really, if the liberal movement in this country had any sort of non-braindead answer to this question they'd probably be able to consistently hold federal or even statewide power.

 It's not a gotcha because we know the answer. Too many of these voters vote their cultural biases and prejudices as study after study shows. Why they do that is a different question.

 When the other half of the GOP "tax cuts for the rich" platform is a constant fearmongering about nonsense "threats" like CRT, Sharia Law, LGBT, Trans bathrooms bills, anti-Feminism, criminalizing Abortion, or whatever their latest boogeyman is you can't say it's liberals faults for not having better messaging. These rural voters are adults and this is what they choose to support.

The old economy is their culture and it feeds into the cycle

We say “ Trump passes tax cuts for the rich “.

They think “ Trump passes tax cuts for skilled tradesmen and small business owners like me ! “

People don't care about tax cuts for the rich, or at least don't vote like they care. Isn't even something unique about the USA. If politicians propose that here, they're still very much popular. And if you criticize that, people call you communist and people have the idea that you're pro-russia and pro-china. End of the argument basically, because the discussion ends whenever someone is branded as a communist, regardless even of what they say.

Sometimes people have a defaitist attitude, like "we can't change it anyways" or idolize rich people because they want to be like rich people ("the american dream").

Well that plays into the Republican attitude as well.

Because their vision of  rich is Family owned business. A Factory or some type of traditional industry.

They equally detest however the tech companies, the ultra ultra rich.

[jojoju1998]

]

This is posted like it's some sort of "gotcha" that owns the dumb rubes but, really, if the liberal movement in this country had any sort of non-braindead answer to this question they'd probably be able to consistently hold federal or even statewide power.

 It's not a gotcha because we know the answer. Too many of these voters vote their cultural biases and prejudices as study after study shows. Why they do that is a different question.

 When the other half of the GOP "tax cuts for the rich" platform is a constant fearmongering about nonsense "threats" like CRT, Sharia Law, LGBT, Trans bathrooms bills, anti-Feminism, criminalizing Abortion, or whatever their latest boogeyman is you can't say it's liberals faults for not having better messaging. These rural voters are adults and this is what they choose to support.

The old economy is their culture and it feeds into the cycle

We say “ Trump passes tax cuts for the rich “.

They think “ Trump passes tax cuts for skilled tradesmen and small business owners like me ! “

People don't care about tax cuts for the rich, or at least don't vote like they care. Isn't even something unique about the USA. If politicians propose that here, they're still very much popular. And if you criticize that, people call you communist and people have the idea that you're pro-russia and pro-china. End of the argument basically, because the discussion ends whenever someone is branded as a communist, regardless even of what they say.

Sometimes people have a defaitist attitude, like "we can't change it anyways" or idolize rich people because they want to be like rich people ("the american dream").

Well that plays into the Republican attitude as well.

Because their vision of  rich is Family owned business. A Factory or some type of traditional industry.

They equally detest however the tech companies, the ultra ultra rich.

In that regard, i'm not even that different of that republican attitude. My target isn't family owned businesses, but these exact kind of ultra ultra rich tech companies.

See ? We’re all more similar than we think.

We equally hate The Jeff Bezos of the world, but for different reasons.

Democrats hate the ultra rich because they hold too much of our wealth and mistreat workers.

Republicans hate the ultra rich because they swept away the Main Street economy.