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Santander
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« on: February 21, 2021, 03:56:47 PM »

This isn't a case of deporting an old man, it's a case of deporting a young man who spent decades on the run from his crimes. If he's a better man now than he was then, he should accept his fate and face the consequences for his crimes. He got to live a full and free life in until the ripe old age of 95, something his victims never experienced. The US owes him nothing.
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Santander
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2021, 04:57:13 PM »

Fuzzy Bear and The Reckoning defending a literal Nazi is not surprising.

Where did I defend a Nazi? All I’m saying is, throwing this 95 year old in prison for something that he did 75 years ago when he poses no threat to the world today isn’t making the world a better place. He was a teenager, and teenagers make mistakes. If he had said no, he might have ended up where he was guarding.

And you calling someone a Nazi for something they did 75 years in the past, and not allowing any room for development, is rather against the whole liberal idea of “people can change, 2nd chances, etc.”- one of the ideas that has contributed the most to the development of a civil society today.

Getting deported to Germany is hardly the end of the world.

I don’t really care honestly, but I just think there is no point.

There is no statute of limitations on genocide.

The idea of “prison for punishment” is one of the most barbaric practices that exists in the developed world. Capital punishment is first, but that is already banned in most places.

Whether he serves time in prison is up to the German government and courts. But that doesn't mean he should be allowed to stay in the US and escape justice entirely.
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Santander
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2021, 07:24:41 PM »

Can we please stop calling this man a Nazi? It seems rather unfair to hold someone to a label which they were more or less forced into 75 years ago as a teenager. People can change and circumstances need to be taken into account.
He served in the SS. That makes him a Nazi.
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Santander
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2021, 07:31:03 PM »

Can we please stop calling this man a Nazi? It seems rather unfair to hold someone to a label which they were more or less forced into 75 years ago as a teenager. People can change and circumstances need to be taken into account.
He served in the SS. That makes him a Nazi.

“He attended kindergarten. That makes him a kindergartner.”

People can change.
Come up with something better.
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Santander
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2021, 08:16:07 PM »

Does anyone think Fuzzy would be showing this level of compassion and mercy for a Muslim immigrant later found to have been a member of ISIS?
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Santander
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2021, 08:36:23 PM »

Imagine abhorring something so much that you think perpetrators should face no consequences whatsoever.
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Santander
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2021, 11:50:15 AM »

This may be the last Nazi war criminal to be deported. Now the government should ramp up efforts to deport the various African, Central American, and other war criminals in the US.
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Santander
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2021, 03:20:42 PM »

For the love of God, he wasn’t at a camp where extermination was taking place, what was he supposed to do? He was 18, his brain wasn’t even fully developed yet, and theirs no proof this person actually made a conscious, willing choice to participate in the Holocaust.
The SS was a volunteer organization. And unless you're contending that nobody can be responsible for criminal activity until 25, his age does not absolve him of his actions. Neither does the fact that he served in what was "merely" an inhumane concentration camp where thousands were killed, rather than an extermination camp where people were taken to be systematically killed.
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Santander
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2021, 03:52:56 PM »

Imagine having 800 posts on Atlas and over 30 of them are defending a Nazi.
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Santander
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2021, 05:08:12 PM »

He's not even going to prison, lol. He's being deported to a safe, developed country with a welfare state from which he receives a pension.
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Santander
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2021, 06:57:13 PM »

Of course the Holocaust happened. But in the case of this specific man, he didn’t work at an extermination camp, he worked at one of forced labor.
That just means he was accessory to thousands, instead of hundreds of thousands, of murders.
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Santander
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2021, 09:40:53 PM »

Besides, this is not a defense of his actions. This is me saying he doesn’t pose a threat to humanity today, and thus doesn’t belong in prison. If he deserves punishment, he will recieve that when he dies and faces his creator.
Letting every war criminal on the planet know that the United States is a safe haven as long as they're senior citizens is a threat to humanity.
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