Obama: maybe I was "10 or 20 years too early"

[Blair]

The burning hatred for Obama among socialists for only giving them 90% of what they wanted never ceases to astound me.

Or the fact that America had one of the most ambitious economic stimulus programs after the recessions. Ofc there were flaws and nuances but Obama’s handling of the Economy between 09-10 shouldn’t be overrated.

I’m surprised no-one jumped on Jfern comment about Obama not being ‘black enough’... all I’d say is read Ta-Nehisi Coates My President was Black.

Besides the claim that Obama should have done more forgets the entire saga with actually getting the 60 votes (Franken, Kennedy dying, Libermen being evil etc) The Democratic Caucus in 2009 was objectively a lot more Conservative than the current one.

[Blair]

If he had reached out to Congress once in a while and wasn't intellectually distant, his presidency might have had more tangible results

What does the first part actually mean? Like is there an actual example from his first term where he didn’t reach out?

He gave massively benefits to red state democrats with Obamacare, spend the entire summer with John Boehner trying to fix the grand bargain and did virtually all of his 2009-2012 stuff through Congress.

It’s obvious that Obama should have done better with congress but I can’t see how this applies as anything other than a talking point.