UK General Discussion: 2017 and onwards, Mayhem

[Blair]

Are things finally starting to crack?

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/21/theresa-may-faces-ministerial-revolt-over-no-deal-brexit

Last time they briefed it was going to be 40 resignations. Lots of Tory backbenchers still haven't got the message that Grieve (and Sourby and co) got which is that the only way to get the PM to do anything is to rebel, and keep rebelling.

We got lots of boasting last time, and not a single Tory resigned or rebelled who wasn't a usual suspect- so I'm not holding my breathe, and look forward to Richard Harrington, Nicky Morgan and the other useful idiots saying 'Lets give the PM one more chance'.

Interesting question- who is more naive, Tory remainers expecting the PM to act in the national interest, or Labour remainers expecting a lifelong eurosceptic to back a people's vote?

[Blair]

Fwiw the instenity of feeling around Brexit has got a lot worse since 2017; back then it was an abstract idea, now it’s much of a practical reality.

[Blair]

The TIGers now have policy/administrative rolls. A party is becoming more coherent.

Albeit they’ve given people the jobs they want rather than the ones they need.

[Blair]

The TIGers now have policy/administrative rolls. A party is becoming more coherent.

Albeit they’ve given people the jobs they want rather than the ones they need.

Shouldn't personal preference be taken into consideration?

Sometimes- but of course it’s lead to a vocal defender of the Iraq War getting the foreign brief, a staunch supporter of the water companies getting the energy/ultiliy brief and so forth.

[Blair]

It’s all rather ridiculous as the DUP are waiting for the Attorney General to give legal advice, and the ERG (grouping of 80 eurosceptic Tories) are waiting to see what the DUP do. It’s a good lesson what happens when you take yourself up a mountain with stupid demands.

My gut instinct is that about 60-80 Tories, plus the DUP vote against it. There’s not the unilateral exit clause, or time limit they wanted.

But it’s looking a lot better than if you asked me 24 hours ago.