Trumpcare Megathread: It's dead (for now)

[Blair]

Yeah this is starting to feel like the second crack at the House vote; and I can't help but think that it's going to pass now.

I'm looking forward to Heller becoming an ambassador in 2018 in exchange for this

[Blair]

Yeah this is starting to feel like the second crack at the House vote; and I can't help but think that it's going to pass now.

I'm looking forward to Heller becoming an ambassador in 2018 in exchange for this

This is all pure cruelty and evil, dumping so many people out of health insurance to benefit corporations; the Republican party is nothing else.

With the exception of Paul, both the House and Senate has shown that conservatives can basically play hardball, and will get what they want. Complete opposite happened when the Democrats did Obamacare.

[Blair]

I mean the fact they're considering voting when Mccain isn't there (and therefore it would fail already) just shows how desperate they are to have some show of loyalty- if they don't it would be the third time they've cancelled a vote on this

[Blair]

According to politico 'Senators who opposed the bill are meeting to come up with an alternative plan' this could just be Mike Lee, but as we've seen this bill is very hard to kill

[Blair]

worth noting that yes it's difficult to get a final bill done, but this time last week it looked completely dead.

I expect now that Lee/Paul/Johnson will all support it, then it will be like the House again where the mushy types e.g Heller/Capito will just get bribed.

I imagined this is how a lot of people felt in 2010 with Senators like Blanche, Bayh etc. Just pick a position; and be with it. Don't do this stupid back and forth.

And not that it needs reminding; but John McCain is nothing special. It's not 2000 anymore.

[Blair]

Murkowski voting No is actually a horrible sign for this bill's health, given Rand Paul's repeated statements that he won't vote Yes on passage of anything except clean repeal. People are calling this way too early.

So then you have Murkowski, Collins and Paul safe Nays? Plus McCain at the moment? A certain defeat at the floor. So much for the winning. (but I don't want to celebrate before it's done).

Paul has said he wants a vote on clean repeal... but hasn't said what he'll do after that. Will most likely vote for it, and then go on about how he 'forced a vote to repeal all of obamacare' etc

[Blair]

Didn't Obamacare have something similar given to Louisiana to get Landrieu on board?

Regardless I doubt it working; both Collins and McCain citied that it was a host of other factors (planned parenthood ban, regular order, pre-existing conditions) that were stopping them from voting for it; it may work to help Murkowski get to yes if she's already leaning.