President Forever Tournament - Round 2

[Colin]

I cant start this until I know how to make this game even.

Why? Is it still giving you uneven returns? That's just something that you'll have to live with since its not even between Democrats and Republicans in real life either. Just play it through.

EDIT: Actually why don't you try playing with regionalism on? It makes the vote more dependent on the players positions than on the electoral trends text file.

[Colin]

I simulated 10 Bush v. Kerry games in a scenario called America Decides - 2004, which is available off 80soft's website and uses the actual vote totals for Bush and Kerry. It came down to 5 for Bush 5 for Kerry though Kerry did win two or three of those while losing the electoral vote.

With regionalism on the numbers were 6 for Bush, 3 for Kerry, and 1 Tie. So Regionalism in a Bush v. Kerry matchup actually hurts the left wing candidate.

[Colin]

Well P4E comes with a candidate editor so you don't need to edit the text files. If you need some help Bacon King I could do some of the matchups.

[Colin]

Well P4E comes with a candidate editor so you don't need to edit the text files. If you need some help Bacon King I could do some of the matchups.

We could alternate brackets.

Well I found a problem with mine. I had made some changes to the 2004 scenario so I kinda screwed it up.

[Colin]

BRACKET B:

Dave                       Andrew
Josh           vs.         Vlad     
Afleitch                    Bacon King

Round 1 (No Regionalism):

Game 1 Dave Hawk vs. Andrew Berger:

David Gray (D): 62,915,670 50% 271 EVs
Andrew Berger (R): 60,221,556 48% 267 EVs

Game 2 Dave Hawk vs. Captain Vlad:

Adam Martin (R): 64,339,149 51% 320 EVs
David Gray (D): 59,152,510 47% 218 EVs

Game 3 Dave Hawk vs. Bacon King:

In the biggest victory so far Bacon King landslides Dave.

Justin Coleman (R): 66,809,320 53% 391 EVs
David Gray (D): 57,012,864 45% 147 EVs

Game 4 Josh22 vs. Andrew:

This game gives us our first electoral victory popular vote losing scenario.

Joshua Craddock (D): 59,909,255 48% 280 EVs
Andrew Berger (R): 62,797,384 50% 258 EVs

Game 5 Josh22 vs. Captain Vlad:

A true landslide. Absolutely. Vlad scores another impressive win.

Adam Martin (R): 70,723,958 56% 444 EVs
Joshua Craddock (D): 51,619,561 41% 94 EVs

Game 6 Josh22 vs. Bacon King:

Our first tie. Bacon King was elected by the Republican majority house.

Justin Coleman (R): 63,578,338 51% 269 EVs
Joshua Craddock (D): 58,636,995 48% 269 EVs

Game 7 Afleitch vs. Andrew Berger:

Andrew Berger (R): 66,042,582 53% 373 EVs
Andrew Fleitch (D): 57,359,802 46% 165 EVs

Game 8 Afleitch vs. Vlad:

Adam Martin (R): 64,566,865 51% 344 EVs
Andrew Fleitch (D): 57,652,359 46% 194 EVs

Game 9 Afleitch vs. Bacon King:

This one was brutal. Just as Andrew was really gaining moment and on the verge of victory a huge scandel hits him. So because of that we get this landslide.

Justin Coleman (R): 70,153,298 56% 450 EVs
Andrew Fleitch (D): 52,241,723 41% 88 EVs

8 more games to go this time with regionalism turned on. Be done with those as soon as possible.

[Colin]

BRACKET B

ROUND 2 (with regionalism on)

Game 1 Andrew Berger vs. Dave Hawk:

Andrew Berger (R): 63,792,621 51% 281 EVs
David Gray (D): 59,759,544 47% 257 EVs

Game 2 Andrew Berger vs. Josh22:

Andrew Berger (R): 62,526,570 50% 294 EVs
Joshua Craddock (D): 60,477,824 48% 244 EVs

Game 3 Andrew Berger vs. Afleitch:

Andrew Berger (R): 393 EVs
Andrew Fleitch (D): 147 EVs

Game 4 Captain Vlad vs. Dave Hawk:

Adam Martin (R): 65,920,867 52% 353 EVs
David Gray (D): 56,474,160 45% 185 EVs

Game 5 Captain Vlad vs. Josh22:

Captain Vlad is able to make Vermont go over 60% Republican.

Adam Martin: 62,665,494 50% 281 EVs
Joshua Craddock: 60,018,610 48% 257 EVs

Game 6 Captain Vlad vs. Afleitch:

Adam Martin (R): 65,188,866 52% 322 EVs
Andrew Fleitch (D): 57,480,676 216 EVs

Game 7 Bacon King vs. Dave Hawk:

Justin Coleman (R): 62,549,771 50% 278 EVs
David Gray (D): 60,632,977 48% 260 EVs

Game 8 Bacon King vs. Josh22

Well this game solidifies Bacon King as a definite landslide leader. I don't know what he did but he hit a P4E sweet spot.

Justin Coleman (R): 66,261,174 53% 429 EVs
Joshua Craddock (D): 55,783,675 44% 109 EVs

Game 9 Bacon King vs. Afleitch:

Oh my God. Bacon King goes crazy. Biggest landslide yet against Afleitch. Afleitch started out with about 40% of the vote and it didn't get any better. He lost most of his states in the final week due to unstoppable Bacon King momentum.

Justin Coleman (R): 71,349,740 57% 513 EVs
Andrew Fleitch (D): 51,653,107 41% 25 EVs

Well that's it for Bracket B. Up in a few minutes will be the total electoral votes and the average electoral votes for each candidate. Expect Bracket D, my other bracket, by Wednesday.

[Colin]

BRACKET B - ROUND 2

TOTAL ELECTORAL VOTES

Bacon King: 2330
Captain Vlad: 2064
Andrew Berger: 1888

Dave Hawk: 1338
Josh22: 1231
Afleitch: 835

AVERAGE ELECTORAL VOTE

Bacon King: 388
Captain Vlad: 344
Andrew Berger: 315

Dave Hawk: 223
Josh22: 205
Afleitch: 139

[Colin]

ROUND 2 BRACKET D

Akno21                                   Masterjedi
Ilikeverin                   vs.         DanielX
Speed of Sound                      FezzyFestoon

Round 1 (Without Regionalism):

Game 1 Akno21 vs. MasterJedi:

Closest election so far.

Ryan Noble (R): 61,311,593 49% 273 EVs
Alex Knobbly (D): 61,806,534 49% 265 EVs

Game 2 Akno21 vs. DanielX:

Daniel Smith (R): 62,443,724 50% 270 EVs
Alex Knobbly (D): 60,417,025 48% 268 EVs

Game 3 Akno21 vs. FezzyFestoon:

Brett Festoon (R): 61,708,470 49% 274 EVs
Alex Knobbly (D): 61,357,315 49% 264 EVs

Game 4 Ilikeverin vs. MasterJedi:

Ryan Noble (R): 62,490,449 50% 286 EVs
Chris Ilikeverin (D): 60,802,214 48% 252 EVs

Game 5 Ilikeverin vs. DanielX:

Ilikeverin breaks through in the South taking most of the Mississippi Valley.

Chris Ilikeverin (D): 61,186,764 49% 271 EVs
Daniel Smith (R): 61,516,979 49 267 EVs

Game 6 Ilikeverin vs. FezzyFestoon:

Verin goes below 60,000,000 for the first time. Verin won Connecticut by 569 votes.

Brett Festoon (R): 64,888,743 52% 288 EVs
Chris Ilikeverin (D): 58,067,814 46% 250 EVs

Game 7 Speed of Sound vs. MasterJedi:

What's The Matter With Kansas? And New York for that matter.

Ryan Noble (R): 65,338,286 52% 322 EVs
Speed of Sound (D): 57,953,351 46% 216 EVs

Game 8 Speed of Sound vs. DanielX:

Daniel Smith (R): 64,811,763 52% 295 EVs
Speed of Sound (D): 57,916,044 46% 243 EVs

Game 9 Speed of Sound vs. FezzyFestoon

Brett Festoon (R): 64,571,540 51% 277 EVs
Speed of Sound (D): 58,671,880 47% 261 EVs

And that is the first set of results. The second set should be done either later tonight or tomorrow.

[Colin]

Where is Bracket A?

Bracket A and C were Bacon King's responsibility. I don't know when he'll have those up.

[Colin]

Just a heads up Bacon King you may want to give us their forum names as well as the names that they ran under in the tournament since it's hard to tell for some of them.

Expect Round 2 of Bracket D by tonight.

[Colin]

ROUND 2 BRACKET D

Round 2 (With Regionalism):

Game 1 MasterJedi vs. Akno21:

Ryan Noble (R): 62,823,930 50% 323 EVs
Alex Knobbly (D): 60,181,285 48% 215 EVs

Game 2 MasterJedi vs. Ilikeverin:

Ryan Noble (R): 62,393,029 50% 272 EVs
Chris Ilikeverin (D): 60,476,658 48% 266 EVs

Game 3 MasterJedi vs. Speed of Sound:

Why is it that strange things always happen when Speedy is the candidate?

Speed of Sound (D): 61,915,498 49% 288 EVs
Ryan Noble (R): 61,325,041 49% 250 EVs

Game 4 DanielX vs. Akno21:

Biggest electoral victory yet for a Democrat.

Alex Knobbly (D): 61,800,012 49% 300 EVs
Daniel Smith (R): 60,211,246 48% 238 EVs

Game 5 Daniel Smith vs. Ilikeverin:

Chris Ilikeverin (D): 62,212,245 50% 276 EVs
Daniel Smith (R): 60,911,692 48% 262 EVs

Game 6 DanielX vs. Speed of Sound:

DanielX loses his third game in a row. Also FYI Badnarik got almost 2% of the vote in this election, over 2.7 million votes, but his results did not effect any of the races.

Speed of Sound (D): 61,483,271 49% 296 EVs
Daniel Smith (R): 60,437,081 48% 242 EVs

Game 7 FezzyFestoon vs. Akno21:

Brett Festoon (R): 62,706,113 50% 294 EVs
Alex Knobbly (D): 60,203,020 48% 244 EVs

Game 8 FezzyFestoon vs. Ilikeverin:

A Republican finally dips below 60 million votes in this Ilikeverin win. Verin also wins his home state of Indiana for the first time. Very close election overall with Tenessee being won by Verin by 27,501 votes, Missouri won by Fezzy by .9% and Virginia won by Fezzy by 2%.

Chris Ilikeverin (D): 63,551,268 51% 272 EVs
Brett Festoon (R): 59,408,103 47% 266 EVs

Game 9 FezzyFestoon vs. Speed of Sound:

And for our last game Speedy gets landslided by Fezzy. SoS drops down into the 55 million votes range. Oddest thing is that Tennesee is SoS's best state. Must be the ever popular Al Gore effect.

Brett Festoon (R): 67,014,493 53% 344 EVs
Speed of Sound (D): 55,910,159 44% 194 EVs

And that is it. New standings and totals will be posted shortly.

[Colin]

BRACKET D - ROUND 2

TOTAL ELECTORAL VOTES

Ilikeverin: 1587 EVs
Akno21: 1556 EVs
Speed of Sound: 1498 EVs

FezzyFestoon: 1743 EVs
MasterJedi: 1726 EVs
DanielX: 1574 EVs

AVERAGE ELECTORAL VOTE

Ilikeverin: 265 EVs
Akno21: 259 EVs
Speed of Sound: 250 EVs

FezzyFestoon: 291 EVs
MasterJedi: 288 EVs
DanielX: 262 EVs

[Colin]

ROUND 2 STANDINGS

TOTAL ELECTORAL VOTES

Bacon King: 2330 EVs
Captain Vlad: 2064 EVs
AndrewBerger: 1888 EVs
FezzyFestoon: 1743 EVs
MasterJedi: 1726 EVs
DanielX: 1574 EVs

Ilikeverin: 1587 EVs
Akno21: 1556 EVs
Speed of Sound: 1498 EVs
Dave Hawk: 1338 EVs
Josh22: 1231 EVs
Afleitch: 835 EVs

AVERAGE ELECTORAL VOTE

Bacon King: 388 EVs
Captain Vlad: 344 EVs
AndrewBerger: 315 EVs
FezzyFestoon: 291 EVs
MasterJedi: 288 EVs
DanielX: 262 EVs

Ilikeverin: 265 EVs
Akno21: 259 EVs
Speed of Sound: 250 EVs
Dave Hawk: 223 EVs
Josh22: 205 EVs
Afleitch: 139 EVs

[Colin]

BRACKET A - ROUND 2

TOTAL ELECTORAL VOTES

WMS: 1400 EVs
Cosmo Kramer: 1186 EVs
nini2287: 803 EVs

Winfield: 2530 EVs
Bullmoose: 2133 EVs
TD: 1632 EVs

AVERAGE ELECTORAL VOTE

WMS: 233 EVs
Cosmo Kramer: 198 EVs
nini2287: 134 EVs

Winfield: 422 EVs
Bullmoose: 356 EVs
TD: 272 EVs

[Colin]

ROUND 2 STANDINGS
BRACKET C STILL REMAINING

TOTAL ELECTORAL VOTES

Winfield: 2530 EVs
Bacon King: 2330 EVs
Bullmoose: 2133 EVs
Captain Vlad: 2064 EVs
AndrewBerger: 1888 EVs
FezzyFestoon: 1743 EVs
MasterJedi: 1726 EVs
TD: 1632 EVs
DanielX: 1574 EVs

Ilikeverin: 1587 EVs
Akno21: 1556 EVs
Speed of Sound: 1498 EVs
WMS: 1400 EVs
Dave Hawk: 1338 EVs
Josh22: 1231 EVs
Cosmo Kramer: 1186 EVs
Afleitch: 835 EVs
nini2287: 803 EVs

AVERAGE ELECTORAL VOTE

Winfield: 422 EVs
Bacon King: 388 EVs
Bullmoose: 356 EVs
Captain Vlad: 344 EVs
AndrewBerger: 315 EVs
FezzyFestoon: 291 EVs
MasterJedi: 288 EVs
TD: 272 EVs
DanielX: 262 EVs

Ilikeverin: 265 EVs
Akno21: 259 EVs
Speed of Sound: 250 EVs
WMS: 233 EVs
Dave Hawk: 223 EVs
Josh22: 205 EVs
Cosmo Kramer: 198 EVs
Afleitch: 139 EVs
nini2287: 134 EVs

[Colin]

Notice- I cannot finish Bracket C until I can get opebo's stats. I've sent a PM to both him and Shilly, and am awaiting a response.

They're in the thread in Individual Politics. The one about state your President Forever Platform? I'll get his stats.

[Colin]

Notice- I cannot finish Bracket C until I can get opebo's stats. I've sent a PM to both him and Shilly, and am awaiting a response.

They're in the thread in Individual Politics. The one about state your President Forever Platform? I'll get his stats.

yea, i got his platform, but the other information isn't listed.

It was never listed. Shilly just made up his numbers as I suggest you do since he didn't sign up for the tournament. He is just a place filler.

[Colin]

BRACKET C - ROUND 2

TOTAL ELECTORAL VOTES

Kashifakhan: 1389 EVs
Boris78: 1317 EVs
opebo: 1015 EVs

Shilly: 2184 EVs
Colin Wixted: 1978 EVs
Wildcard: 1801 EVs

AVERAGE ELECTORAL VOTE

Kashifakhan: 232 EVs
Boris78: 220 EVs
opebo: 169 EVs

Shilly: 364 EVs
Colin Wixted: 330 EVs
Wildcard: 300 EVs

[Colin]

ROUND 2 STANDINGS - FINAL

TOTAL ELECTORAL VOTES

Winfield: 2530 EVs
Bacon King: 2330 EVs
Shilly: 2184 EVs
Bullmoose: 2133 EVs
Captain Vlad: 2064 EVs
Colin Wixted: 1978 EVs
AndrewBerger: 1888 EVs
Wildcard: 1801 EVs
FezzyFestoon: 1743 EVs
MasterJedi: 1726 EVs
TD: 1632 EVs
DanielX: 1574 EVs

Ilikeverin: 1587 EVs
Akno21: 1556 EVs
Speed of Sound: 1498 EVs
WMS: 1400 EVs
Kashifakhan: 1317 EVs
Dave Hawk: 1338 EVs
Boris78: 1317 EVs
Josh22: 1231 EVs
Cosmo Kramer: 1186 EVs
opebo: 1015 EVs
Afleitch: 835 EVs
nini2287: 803 EVs

AVERAGE ELECTORAL VOTE

Winfield: 422 EVs
Bacon King: 388 EVs
Shilly: 364 EVs
Bullmoose: 356 EVs
Captain Vlad: 344 EVs
Colin Wixted: 330 EVs
AndrewBerger: 315 EVs
Wildcard: 300 EVs
FezzyFestoon: 291 EVs
MasterJedi: 288 EVs
TD: 272 EVs
DanielX: 262 EVs

Ilikeverin: 265 EVs
Akno21: 259 EVs
Speed of Sound: 250 EVs
WMS: 233 EVs
Kashifakhan: 232 EVs
Dave Hawk: 223 EVs
Boris78: 220 EVs
Josh22: 205 EVs
Cosmo Kramer: 198 EVs
opebo: 169 EVs
Afleitch: 139 EVs
nini2287: 134 EVs

[Colin]

PLACE OF THOSE ADVANCING

TOTAL ELECTORAL VOTES

Winfield: 2530 EVs
Bacon King: 2330 EVs
Shilly: 2184 EVs
Bullmoose: 2133 EVs
Captain Vlad: 2064 EVs
Colin Wixted: 1978 EVs
FezzyFestoon: 1743 EVs
MasterJedi: 1726 EVs

Ilikeverin: 1587 EVs
Akno21: 1556 EVs
WMS: 1400 EVs
Kashifakhan: 1317 EVs
Dave Hawk: 1338 EVs
Boris78: 1317 EVs
Josh22: 1231 EVs
Cosmo Kramer: 1186 EVs

AVERAGE ELECTORAL VOTE

Winfield: 422 EVs
Bacon King: 388 EVs
Shilly: 364 EVs
Bullmoose: 356 EVs
Captain Vlad: 344 EVs
Colin Wixted: 330 EVs
FezzyFestoon: 291 EVs
MasterJedi: 288 EVs

Ilikeverin: 265 EVs
Akno21: 259 EVs
WMS: 233 EVs
Kashifakhan: 232 EVs
Dave Hawk: 223 EVs
Boris78: 220 EVs
Josh22: 205 EVs
Cosmo Kramer: 198 EVs

[Colin]

There's gotta be a losers bracket...at least for those who do exceptionally well either in the PV or EV

There very well could be. I'll talk with Bacon King about it.