Is feminism the solution to what MRAs often complain about?

[Deus Naturae]

I think MRA's who complain about stuff like this are being frivolous. "Don't hit girls" exists as a thing because women, on average, physically weaker and men fighting men is more of a natural thing, whereas men beating up on women is less so.

The real issues that hurt men are unjust laws in regard to divorce, child custody, and child support, as well as a disturbing trend towards ostracizing and punishing people based on the mere accusation of rape, no matter how baseless or problematic the accuser's story is. Feminists support and push all of these things, so no feminism isn't any kind of solution.

[Deus Naturae]

I think MRA's who complain about stuff like this are being frivolous. "Don't hit girls" exists as a thing because women, on average, physically weaker and men fighting men is more of a natural thing, whereas men beating up on women is less so.

The real issues that hurt men are unjust laws in regard to divorce, child custody, and child support, as well as a disturbing trend towards ostracizing and punishing people based on the mere accusation of rape, no matter how baseless or problematic the accuser's story is. Feminists support and push all of these things, so no feminism isn't any kind of solution.

Seeing as feminism have been the major factor in giving women the vote, banning husband from being legal allowed to beat and rape their wife, removing anti-women disciminating factors, how far do you suggest we should push women right back?

Um, what? Are you seriously accusing me of supporting wife beating and rape? I'm suggesting that we should reform divorce and child support laws...your post is just a ridiculous strawman.

[Deus Naturae]

How about we just not rape people AND not falsely accuse people of rape? Jesus Christ.

You people do realize the implications of "actual crimes are worse than false accusations so it's fine if a few people are falsely accused and/or convicted." The things you people are saying are things that should be limited to forums for right-wing cops.

It's not just that you're mirroring the arguments of reactionaries, you have the exact same paranoid mindset. You assume that there are criminals everywhere; rapists lurking in every dark corner. A few innocent people get falsely treated like criminals? Tough sh**t, better them than let the real criminals (who, of course, are everywhere) escape! It's like what Marokai said about senior citizens who just watch a few TV channels and assume the world is going to hell, except instead of Fox News it's SJW blogs. This kind of mentality used to be limited to old people and it's spread to police officers in recent decades (with the results now clear for all to see), but now it's infecting the general population, except in the form of social justice crusading instead of law-and-order BS. In this very thread you have perfectly rational, intelligent people spouting this nonsense. It's insane, and it's all bound to end terribly.

[Deus Naturae]

Lots of good responses to the predictable misogynous BS. A couple of points.

1. Given how badly rape victims are treated even when they are undoubtedly in the right (Steubenville and many many other cases all over the world) it's pretty obvious that few women would ever make the calculus that it makes sense to fabricate a rape allegation.

I dunno, getting a Rolling Stone article about your made-up story doesn't sound too bad.

[Deus Naturae]

Firstly, no u.

Secondly, lol.

[Deus Naturae]

Firstly, seriously, stfu.

SJW arguments in a nutshell.

If you are just spouting nonsense based on being a jerk with no empathy I'm not going to respectfully disagree. Give some actual arguments and act like human beings instead of piles of garbage and you might get thoughtful responses.

The tired MRA-harping about how great it is to be raped or whatever is not worthy of more than being told to shut up. I'm sorry if that hurts the feelings of you manly men.

Actually, I gave you a specific example of a false rape claim that got tons of attention and support. Just to be clear, I don't think this phenomena is unique to rape; there is a general disturbing trend trend towards believing accusations at face value and disparaging the rights of the accused.

Feel free to keep calling me a big mean pile of garbage instead of engaging, but I have to ask, why do you post on Atlas? It's not just this thread, in general you seem very reluctant to respond to arguments at all and prefer to condescend to and insult your opponents. Is arguing stressful for you?