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« on: December 10, 2014, 09:40:46 PM »

Yes, yes, Americans are stupid and crazy.  We know already.
Really? I thought Americans overwhelmingly supported Democratic policies and only voted GOP because of ignorance and propaganda? I guess Dem talking points after an election disappear as fast as support for gun control after whatever shooting the media decides it wants to publicize.
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2014, 07:27:39 AM »

Sad and pathetic, although I will never understand why all the yuppies out of the conservative 80s (look at the spike in mid to late 1990s) were the ones that got sooooooooo anti-gun when they had kids.  My parents were among them.  There's no way they would've let me go to a friends' house when I was a kid if they knew the parents were gun owners.  They are still fervently anti-gun.  It's one of the big things that their generation got right. 
Suburban parents (especially soccer mom types) who know nothing about something but just associate it with "dangerous" and oppose it out of blind fear and because they think it will endanger their kids. It's the same dynamic that plays into much of the opposition to marijuana legalization.
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2014, 07:15:23 PM »

Sadly, our humanity is slowly withering away.  Small arguments and light skirmishes are to be ended in death for the loser.  Hear a bump in the night?  Fire away.  We don't care about hurting others.  Shouldn't be "sneaking around".  The media fear culture has infected America beyond repair. 
Yeah, that's just total BS. Gun violence is on the decline in the US:



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As would I. Sadly, the only thing I can find when I try to search for it are a bunch of articles about Catholic priests who want to restrict gun ownership.
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2014, 08:22:42 PM »

Sadly, our humanity is slowly withering away.  Small arguments and light skirmishes are to be ended in death for the loser.  Hear a bump in the night?  Fire away.  We don't care about hurting others.  Shouldn't be "sneaking around".  The media fear culture has infected America beyond repair. 
Yeah, that's just total BS. Gun violence is on the decline in the US:





What does that have have to do with people's actual feelings on the issue?  People are obviously more tolerant of those who die in gun-related incident than before. 
You claimed that America was becoming a more violent society where people were more likely to shoot other people. That's just flat-out untrue.
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2014, 12:51:00 PM »

Democrats aren't interested in controlling guns, only law-abiding citizens who wish to own them, which isn't going to do a damn thing to fight crime.
Exactly.  Criminals break the law by definition, so if they want guns, they're going to try to get them.  They don't care about the law in the first place, so trying to restrict gun rights that way is completely stupid.

How do you feel about the criminalization of drugs?
How do you?
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2014, 08:14:48 PM »

Whaddya know.  We hold almost the exact same stance.  However, I am talking about a culture of violence, love of guns, and the dismissal of dead people as "sh*t happens". 
If there was actually an endemic "culture of violence" in the US related to guns don't you think we might have seen, I dunno, more gun violence? Sorry man but I feel like you've got this preconceived notion that there MUST be something deeply wrong (and getting worse) when in reality things are getting better when you look at the data. You remind me of conservatives who claim that "urban areas are lawless" or "the border is in chaos" despite the fact that crime rates and illegal immigration are both on the decline. Don't get me wrong, the US still has plenty of problems, but solving the real issues isn't helped by ranting about alleged crises in contravention of actual data.
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