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« on: July 26, 2009, 09:38:58 PM »

I'd like to see Rudy run, but I'd rather him be President. I can't see him winning NY Governors race if it appears he would use it as a springboard to the GOP primaries. He'd have to start running the moment he took office.


Although he'd probably never win a GOP primary with the current state of the GOP.
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2009, 09:54:24 PM »

I'd like to see Rudy run, but I'd rather him be President. I can't see him winning NY Governors race if it appears he would use it as a springboard to the GOP primaries. He'd have to start running the moment he took office.


Although he'd probably never win a GOP primary with the current state of the GOP.

Now you're exaggerating.  Of course he would win a primary in NY.

Wait, what are you talking about?

No, a national primary. We've lost too many moderates that he would need to win. If it was a Giuliani v. Huckabee battle, Huck would win without a problem.
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2009, 10:29:32 PM »

I'd like to see Rudy run, but I'd rather him be President. I can't see him winning NY Governors race if it appears he would use it as a springboard to the GOP primaries. He'd have to start running the moment he took office.


Although he'd probably never win a GOP primary with the current state of the GOP.

Now you're exaggerating.  Of course he would win a primary in NY.

Wait, what are you talking about?

No, a national primary. We've lost too many moderates that he would need to win. If it was a Giuliani v. Huckabee battle, Huck would win without a problem.

Well, it would probably be competitive.  Giuliani just needs to run a campaign that isn't an utter disaster like last time.  With the right resources, anything is possible.

Well, it was inexcusable that he finished behind Huckabee in a state like New Hampshire, but Iowa was pretty predictable. The collapses in Michigan and Nevada were not, though.
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2009, 01:13:06 AM »

I'd like to see Rudy run, but I'd rather him be President. I can't see him winning NY Governors race if it appears he would use it as a springboard to the GOP primaries. He'd have to start running the moment he took office.


Although he'd probably never win a GOP primary with the current state of the GOP.

Now you're exaggerating.  Of course he would win a primary in NY.

Wait, what are you talking about?

No, a national primary. We've lost too many moderates that he would need to win. If it was a Giuliani v. Huckabee battle, Huck would win without a problem.

Well, it would probably be competitive.  Giuliani just needs to run a campaign that isn't an utter disaster like last time.  With the right resources, anything is possible.

Well, it was inexcusable that he finished behind Huckabee in a state like New Hampshire, but Iowa was pretty predictable. The collapses in Michigan and Nevada were not, though.

Huckabee campaigned in NH and Giuliani did not.  It's as simple as that.

He also ran an inept campaign that should really be going in the Guiness Book of World Records (for putridness of course).

Giuliani spent the most money in NH behind Romney, I believe. He was polling in second until Huckabee won the Iowa caucuses and McCain began surging. I do agree that with McCain out of the race in 2012, Rudy could do much better. He took a huge chunk of his support when he won New Hampshire which translated into a mass migration to McCain following that contest.
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