Would you be happy with Obama or McCain winning?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

No.  John McCain is an American Hero who understands what it means to sacrifice for our country, has sound judgement, and solid leadership qualities.  

Obama just doesn't cut it, and though I started out with a profound respect for his ideas and campaign style, I am becoming increasingly worried about the people who influence him and his elitist attitude.  I'm not running off to Canada - but if Obama were elected, I would really feel like America doesn't exist anymore.

I agree with a lot of your points. Early on when it looked like Huckabee or Romney would be the GOP nominee, I said I would vote for Obama if Bloomberg did not run. However, after learning what I have learned about him over the course of this election, I would have rallied behind Romney or Huckabee no matter how loony they are. Why? Obama is just as loony, only to the far left as opposed to the far right (in Hucks case). I don't trust anything Obama has to say, and I feel like he'll be a mediocre President or an inept one if he does make it to office. Sure, he'll give wonderful speeches, but actions speak louder than words, and Obama's record has nothing on it that would indicate that he could lead a bipartisan effort to solve anything. He'd just have to hope the Democrats get overwhelming majorities in Congress. I would not feel okay with Obama being President because I don't believe he'd put America first in his decisions. He's even said that when he talks about dealing with other nations as not putting America above them.

You won't have to run to Canada. Obama would bring it here. All liberals look to Canada as the beacon of intellect and perfect policies.

Plus, we'd have nuts like BRTD running around calling people racist if we criticize Obama or his policies. I imagine he won't be the only one. Seriously, people who disagree with Obama are treated as loons and it makes free speech look to be endanger. Some of the things I've read on this forum are truly frightening written by some of these Obama supporters.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Obama would probably lead to the Republicans taking over Congress in 2010, balancing out and/or correcting a Left controlled Washington.  I guess I could go for two years of bad politics to get something out of it at the end his term.  McCain would continue with a Left-leaning Congress which has yet to be capable of doing anything.  So, with Congress one way or another being neutered, I can be content (not happy).

That would be the only positive outcome of this, but I would be afraid that Obama could get all his social programs and handouts passed in the two years before the 2010 election.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Obama would probably lead to the Republicans taking over Congress in 2010, balancing out and/or correcting a Left controlled Washington.  I guess I could go for two years of bad politics to get something out of it at the end his term.  McCain would continue with a Left-leaning Congress which has yet to be capable of doing anything.  So, with Congress one way or another being neutered, I can be content (not happy).

That would be the only positive outcome of this, but I would be afraid that Obama could get all his social programs and handouts passed in the two years before the 2010 election.

Which social programs are you afraid of?

Universal healthcare and the government subsidizing college tuitions are two of the ones that I particularly don't like.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Obama would probably lead to the Republicans taking over Congress in 2010, balancing out and/or correcting a Left controlled Washington.  I guess I could go for two years of bad politics to get something out of it at the end his term.  McCain would continue with a Left-leaning Congress which has yet to be capable of doing anything.  So, with Congress one way or another being neutered, I can be content (not happy).

That would be the only positive outcome of this, but I would be afraid that Obama could get all his social programs and handouts passed in the two years before the 2010 election.

Which social programs are you afraid of?

Universal healthcare and the government subsidizing college tuitions are two of the ones that I particularly don't like.

I like the government subsidizing college tuition or at least community colleges, universal healthcare is a waste of time.

I just don't believe the federal government needs to be giving handouts to everyone for college tuition. Scholarships and other ways to help people out are plenty. Maybe community colleges, but not universities. College isn't something everyone is entitled to. It's for people that work hard and earn the chance. Universal healthcare will just clout the healthcare industry. Out of the 44 million without healthcare, over half of them chose not to buy it. It will just raise my taxes.

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...College isn't something everyone is entitled to. It's for people that work hard and earn the chance.

No, it is for people who are privileged.  They certainly do not work or earn.

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You poor deluded, do you realize that the 'healthcare industry' in the US is simply a mafia?  They are a racket that charges many multiples of what any given service is 'worth' simply because 1) they have control of the State, and 2) a gun to your head.  As for 'your' taxes being raised, you're a fool - you are a mere worker, whose income and taxes are insignificant.  If you care to dispute this, please list your income.

Everyone's taxes will go up when the Bush tax cuts are rolled back, not just the extremely wealthy. Raising taxes will not help the economy get out of recession either.

I know the healthcare in the US is regulated and companies are in charge of states. That's why I am for deregulating it so people can buy plans from other states and create a better , more level playing field--not one that the government artificially suppresses.

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Just like it does in other countries like France, Canada, and the UK?

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Just like it does in other countries like France, Canada, and the UK?

Precisely.  The lives of ordinary people in those countries are enormously better than the lives of ordinary americans - and in particular they are not allowed to die without medical care simply due to not having money.

No one is turned away from a hospital because they don't have health insurance. Sure, their treatment is less than what someone else gets with health insurance, but we don't have people die because they are refused care. I'd rather not see coverage rationed out and wait lists become the norm like in other countries. Why don't people go to Canada, UK and France for healthcare coverage if their system is so great?

Also, people may have such a better standard of life because these countries are so much smaller than the US. Sure, it can work with 50 million people, but 300 million?

Everyone's taxes will go up when the Bush tax cuts are rolled back, not just the extremely wealthy.

I'd suggest you take another look at the numbers.

I suggest you look at the numbers too.

They reduced the percentage paid across all tax brackets. The only reason the rich got the biggest cut with because they pay the most in taxes. The top 50% pay 99% of the nations income taxes. In fact, the tax cuts shifted more of the taxes to the rich.

http://www.heritage.org/research/taxes/bg2001.cfm

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You actually believe our government can run a system like that? I don't know about you, but everything the government gets involved with seems to go down hill.