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Fmr. Pres. Duke
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« on: June 28, 2014, 02:11:48 PM »

Right, the situation is much worse than it is IRL according to our GM. Given the current facts IRL, I wouldn't support us getting involved either aside from protecting our embassy and citizens in Iraq.

I do understand the argument of those wanting to stay out of Iraq entirely. It's unclear as to whether they will ever stand on their own, and the risk that they fall into the hands of ISIS or another terror group is real - Iran could turn them into a proxy state as well, and if that happens, then I fear we will be a direct target for them, but I don't know. This isn't an easy decision we are having to make one way or the other.
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2014, 12:02:51 PM »

Is there any way we can contact and possible work with our allies to form a coalition to stop this madness? I am pretty leery on declaring war on Iraq...the last thing I want is to be dragged into another mess. However, I do worry about the implications to our national security if we let the country fall to a radical group or if it turns into an Iranian puppet state.
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2014, 08:37:42 PM »

I guess what needs to be established is, what will these airstrikes accomplish...in order to get the Senate behind this. What are our goals here?

I, like many others, fear getting back into a war in Iraq when I really believe that letting them have a civil war is probably necessary before they stabilize, whether as a democracy or under another dictator, which is more their speed, but we need to make sure they don't fall to a terrorist group who will just set up a training base in Iraq to launch future attacks against the west. That's the only reason I'd want to get involved in the first place, and that happening seems like a real possibility.
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2014, 12:32:46 AM »

So you're endorsing us getting involved then, dear Tyrion? Tongue

What we must do here is look out for what is in atlasia's best interest, not just now but in the future.

Of course, this won't be my decision to make. I'm outta here Friday at noon.
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2014, 11:02:53 AM »

So you're endorsing us getting involved then, dear Tyrion? Tongue

What we must do here is look out for what is in atlasia's best interest, not just now but in the future.

Of course, this won't be my decision to make. I'm outta here Friday at noon.

I'm not sure if people have noticed, but I'm quite hawkish. I'm not interventionist, per se, but I do agree that we should consider the best interests of Atlasia.

And I agree with you that we need to do something. If we don't, someone else will, and the outcome then might not be in our best interest in our near future, which is why I have disregarded the constitution and sent aircraft carriers to the regioncome to the senate for permission to act.
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