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Fmr. Pres. Duke
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« on: June 08, 2014, 08:26:05 PM »

Didn't we already vote this down last session?
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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2014, 02:14:07 PM »

Some people oppose our current status as a superpower and feel severely weakening our military and intelligence capabilities is the way to go, spending that money domestically instead.

I tend to disagree, as I feel we play an important role on the national stage, and rolling back our military capabilities would be harmful, but others don't. C'est la vie.
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2014, 03:38:24 PM »

FYI, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, equal protection, etc all would be violated if we passed this bill.
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2014, 11:05:36 AM »

Right, TNF. The military has the same rights that any other organization, sans something like alcohol or tobacco companies, to go advertise to people. The state can limit free speech if it has a specific reason to do so, yes, but I don't see a valid reason to ban military recruitment. They aren't forcing anyone to sign up. They are recruiting volunteers. Just as all advertisers do.

What interest does the state have in limiting their freedom of speech?
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2014, 09:45:33 AM »
« Edited: June 12, 2014, 10:06:45 AM by President Duke »

Well, even with alcohol and tobacco companies, the companies are still allowed to advertise. They just cannot target underaged people and they must include warnings on their ads. They are not outright banned from having their voices heard.

I am okay with clause 2 though.. Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2014, 10:37:45 AM »

Well, even with alcohol and tobacco companies, the companies are still allowed to advertise. They just cannot target underaged people and they must include warnings on their ads. They are not outright banned from having their voices heard.

I am okay with clause 2 though.. Tongue

Nah, all drug advertising is actually banned in Atlasia.

Even tobacco and alcohol? Interesting.
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2014, 10:46:09 AM »

Well, even with alcohol and tobacco companies, the companies are still allowed to advertise. They just cannot target underaged people and they must include warnings on their ads. They are not outright banned from having their voices heard.

I am okay with clause 2 though.. Tongue

Nah, all drug advertising is actually banned in Atlasia.

Even tobacco and alcohol? Interesting.

Yeah, you actually signed that into law:

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Oh, right, I remember that. I wonder if that is constitutional, for the soft drugs at least. I do think the state has an interest in limiting or banning advertising of those things due to the inherit risks of drinking/smoking/using drugs.
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2014, 11:23:08 AM »

I'd be OK with someone sending me to the front lines at this point in my life, al la Alexander the Great. Anything that doesn't involve studying for the bar
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2014, 12:22:38 AM »

What will we do if we, god forbid, have to use the draft someday? I don't think any one of us wants to ever use it, but it's best we keep it in place in the event it's necessary to protect our country.

I think times are different now and most politicians know how terrible it is for them to support a draft.
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