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« Reply #150 on: July 21, 2014, 06:08:57 PM »

Sounds too good to be true. He'll be terminated the first day on the phones when he's unable to make any sales. This happens to him all the time at these call centers.
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« Reply #151 on: July 21, 2014, 06:58:49 PM »

This sounds so shady. 5 people have already "quit" after a few days of sitting around and talking about sports and cooking?
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« Reply #152 on: July 21, 2014, 07:18:07 PM »

This sounds so shady. 5 people have already "quit" after a few days of sitting around and talking about sports and cooking?

3 people have apparently quit because they weren't understanding the material that we did go over the first few days of class.

Do you understand the material? It can't be that hard, can it?
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« Reply #153 on: July 21, 2014, 08:41:25 PM »

Excited to get on the phones and telemarket to people?
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« Reply #154 on: July 21, 2014, 09:56:57 PM »

Yeah this isn't a scam job by any means. It's just one of those jobs that churn and burn people. Bushie is by no means safe, and I'll be shocked if he lasts more than a couple of weeks after he actually gets on the phones. Has he ever lasted more than a few weeks at any call center he's worked at?

Also, it's strange Bushie insists on working at a job he knows he isn't suited for, yet refuses to work retail or at Wal Mart because he feels it isn't a job he's suited for.
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« Reply #155 on: July 21, 2014, 10:15:22 PM »

If anything, perhaps all the discussions about the cooking channel will help Bushie learn how to cook without assistance!

And he never told us what all he ate this weekend Sad
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« Reply #156 on: July 23, 2014, 01:12:30 AM »

Bushie's sense of loyalty is adorable sometimes. He reminds me of an innocent boy.
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« Reply #157 on: July 23, 2014, 07:13:05 PM »

The train in his room is pretty symbolic. It sounds like Papa and Mama Bushie are both on the train riding away from Bushie's financial needs whether he likes it or not. I wonder what will happen after this job falls through.

Will they once again take him back or finally say enough is enough?
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« Reply #158 on: July 23, 2014, 10:48:03 PM »

Lol yeah, a letter carrier is the last thing he needs to be. I was thinking more of one of the people that work in the actual post office who stamp things and help people mail packages. I've seen plenty of fats do that job.

But Bushie delivering mail in all kinds of weather and having to walk? No way. The town would never get their mail because he'd be out with an upset stomach or headache!
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« Reply #159 on: July 23, 2014, 11:04:00 PM »

First off, I am not going to lose this job, so I don't know why all the speculation and negative posting about that.  Did I not specifically request that all such speculation be stopped?  Why am I being ignored?

Second, I have just started the application process for the post office.  I just ordered an application packet over the phone that will arrive at my door within 10-14 calendar days.  That's the only way to apply for the post office.

Um, no... USPS has online applications for everything I found in Oklahoma, and some jobs even say that the application must be done online. Your aversion to online applications is quite odd, and counterproductive to what you need.

Isn't Bushie's bachelor's degree in online commerce or something?!

Yep, which makes this so entertaining. He ordered a paper application that will take 2 weeks to get there over applying online.

I mean, he can easily go http://about.usps.com/careers/welcome.htm

And apply online
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« Reply #160 on: July 24, 2014, 10:19:10 AM »

The train in his room is pretty symbolic. It sounds like Papa and Mama Bushie are both on the train riding away from Bushie's financial needs whether he likes it or not. I wonder what will happen after this job falls through.

Will they once again take him back or finally say enough is enough?

See, I thought the train room was created to try and save the marriage. It's been on the verge of collapse with Jeffie moving back home. Since they pushed him out of OKC and into Tulsa, they must have found something to rekindle the romance.

I like that explanation too. Perhaps Papa and Mama Bushie have some sort of thing for trains and this has led to lots of magic since Bushie moved out to Tulsa. From the sound of it, they don't particularly want him to move back in, even if he loses his job.
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« Reply #161 on: July 24, 2014, 03:15:20 PM »
« Edited: July 24, 2014, 03:17:13 PM by Duke »

Well hopefully Eraserhead remains the executive producer on XVI. I think he's done a real heck of a job on this season, and I look forward to see where he'll take the next one.

What?

The 5th amendment, which is incorporated into the state through the 14th amendment, provides protection against, among other things, the right against self incrimination. This means that people under interrogation by government officials have the right to withhold information that they deem self incriminating. In Miranda v. Arizona, the Court established something you may know as the "Miranda rights," which must be read to criminal suspects in police custody. After they are aware of their rights, they may chose to protect themselves and refuse to talk OR they may waive their rights. If a suspects waives their miranda rights, they are then required to answer ALL questions posed to them by police, not simply the ones they wish to answer. The miranda waiver is all inclusive; they may not pick and chose questions.

Here, Eraserhead has been the gatekeeper of the Update this season. In the past, Bushie chose a partial waiver of his miranda rights, where he would answer questions he wished to answer while threatening to lock or close Update when he got questions he did not like. While Bushie got away with these crimes, as the statute of limitations has ran, now he is not so lucky. Bushie may argue that because Atlas is not the government, this does not apply, but his argument would likely be unsuccessful. In certain circumstances, private entities may be responsible for constitutional violations where they are acting as a government or providing government functions. Here, the moderators and Dave Liep are essential "government actors" because they represent our virtual government, so the constitutional protections and privileges will apply to Bushie.

Therefore, Eraserhead's production of the Update is not only in the best interest of the forum, it is also in the best interest of justice. Bushie will no longer be able to violate the rights he received and subsequently waived under the provisions of Miranda.
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« Reply #162 on: July 24, 2014, 04:11:38 PM »

Bushie won't get a job with the Post Office. There are at least two rounds of applying/tests someone will go through, and in many cases, you end up on a waiting list that can take up to a year for even qualified applicants to become employed. You then end up on a one-year probation; after 365 days, they decide whether they're going to keep you or not, and only then do you actually begin getting real USPS pay and benefits.

I'd have my feelings pretty damn hurt if I was unemployed and broke like Bushie will be by Labor Day, and my parents said I couldn't come home because having a train room is more important. That's not just ice cold. That's zero degrees Kelvin scale.

This is exactly what I thought of

Great job!
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« Reply #163 on: July 24, 2014, 06:54:30 PM »

You spent $58 on a job application and an informational book?? That didn't strike you as a bit odd? Let's just ignore the fact that getting a job application shipped to you is strange enough because you can likely find PDFs online of job applications to fill out.
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« Reply #164 on: July 24, 2014, 08:31:25 PM »

A court needs to put Bushie's money in a resulting trust to hold for him until he's competent enough to take care of it himself. Once he proves that he's able to handle it, only then can the trust be ended.
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« Reply #165 on: July 24, 2014, 09:31:00 PM »

I'm not worried about it.  I've got a good job so I will get paychecks to replenish the money when it comes out.

See, this is a problem! You just threw away $58 and you hardly make a massive salary to where you can just throw away that money on a scam. That's irresponsible even if it is $58.

Also, your credit card number could be used for all kinds of things now. Who do you get your card through? Do they have fraud monitoring? At least through some companies they alert you if your card is used without being swiped.
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« Reply #166 on: July 25, 2014, 12:26:55 AM »

For one, the credit card loan is an unsecured loan. If they miss payments on the other loan, and it's a secured loan, then they'll have whichever piece of collateral they gave the creditor rights in foreclosed on.

But yeah if you're in debt, throwing $58 away for no reason is insane. Cancel it and check your credit card statements to make sure they don't charge anything else on your card.
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« Reply #167 on: July 25, 2014, 10:46:35 AM »

She scolded you for asking her to do her job? Sounds like no one in Oklahoma has much of a work ethic
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