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Fmr. Pres. Duke
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« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2014, 09:34:12 AM »

I don't understand why people want to kill off public housing expansions to fight over a bill with things in it we either cannot do as the federal government, in the case of regulating state/municipally owned parks, or redundant statements like section 2 that just rehashes our constitutional protections against illegal searches and seizures that already exist.

But it doesn't matter. If the senate rejects my redraft, they reject it.
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« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2014, 01:45:39 PM »


We can rename it to embody what we are really trying to do here, which is expanding public housing and giving people a home. Maybe "expand regional public housing act" or something like that.

I'm hoping the majority doesn't vote this down and agrees with me that redundancy in our legislation is poor quality control on the senate's part. All the clauses I've stricken are redundant or things we already can't do anyway. I'll be disappointed if this is rejected over those reasons.
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« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2014, 03:43:17 PM »

Since the redraft has passed, I think it's sign or veto, but I could be wrong. I've never redrafted a redraft, but I have vetoed by own redraft, which apparently was a first. Go figure. Tongue
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« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2014, 04:13:52 PM »


Oh yeah, Windjammer posted the wrong redraft. I posted a newer on after thinking about section 2:1, and I felt it could be constitutional under the supremacy clause.
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« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2014, 10:17:06 AM »

Whew, my final redraft passes. I was worried I'd finally broke that winning streak (I don't count the veto of my own redraft as a loss).

Thanks for this, I can finally go quiet into the night, well, after I see what happens to that education "bill."
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« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2014, 12:16:48 PM »

Do we have an equivalent to a 4th amendment in our constitution? The reason I struck those parts was because I thought we already had those protections in our constitution. I know in the US Constitution, police have a limited scope of what they can do in regard to searching homes/cars and it all involves needing at least reasonable suspicion and most of the time requiring probable cause.

Of course, you can argue that "probable cause" is a vague term that is hard to quantify, but it has been the tried and true standard for years and years, and I can't come up with a better alternative. That isn't to say police abuse doesn't occur, but Section II here wouldn't really stop any of that.
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