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Fmr. Pres. Duke
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« on: November 11, 2013, 01:40:01 PM »

I remember when a bill like this was brought to the floor 3 years ago. I really haven't changed my viewpoint on the matter. Amendments are not supposed to be easy to pass. The constitution was not designed to be amended 400 times. It makes a nightmare for lawmakers and the courts alike. Amendments =/ legislation, so we shouldn't be passing amendments all the time like we do legislation.

If we are going to insist on something like this, we must have a floor of at least 60% if not higher. A simple majority will make amendments jokes and no different than legislation. If I had my way, the regional legislatures would be the ones who ratified them, not a referendum. Carry on...
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2013, 02:15:54 PM »

Then why not retry having the SoFE open and close the ratification booth rather than eliminating regions entirely from the process? It would solve two of the three problems that allegedly exist.
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2013, 01:32:29 PM »

I think two thirds is reasonable.

Has anyone gone back to see which amendments would have passed if we had changed it to a simply majority? I am willing to wager most amendments passed by the senate, some which were incredibly stupid, would have passed.
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2013, 04:20:23 PM »

Ideally, we would at the very least pass an amendment ensuring the SoFE is in control of the amendment voting booth so we can avoid that happened in the pacific and IDS recently.
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