As Bushie's World Turns (The Update Thread)

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

That's a very good point, Duke.  I'll definitely be considering it.

From an economics standpoint, you might not sell it in 6 months anyway given the market, and if the job does work out in Utah, you don't want your parents paying for that house for upwards of a year.

My grandfather owns 7 houses right now, and many of them he wants to sell but can't because of the market. He pays about $80,000 a year on upkeep/taxes and the like. I don't know what your parents will pay, but an idle house has lots of problems, so please consider at least listing the house and see what happens. Don't ask your parents to pay for it while you are gone.

If you truly want to leave Oklahoma and feel it is the best route, go for it. Something WILL work out eventually. What you need, and really I need, is stability in life. You're much older so the need is much higher, but you get my point.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

That's a very good point, Duke.  I'll definitely be considering it.

From an economics standpoint, you might not sell it in 6 months anyway given the market, and if the job does work out in Utah, you don't want your parents paying for that house for upwards of a year.

My grandfather owns 7 houses right now, and many of them he wants to sell but can't because of the market. He pays about $80,000 a year on upkeep/taxes and the like. I don't know what your parents will pay, but an idle house has lots of problems, so please consider at least listing the house and see what happens. Don't ask your parents to pay for it while you are gone.

If you truly want to leave Oklahoma and feel it is the best route, go for it. Something WILL work out eventually. What you need, and really I need, is stability in life. You're much older so the need is much higher, but you get my point.

If it were up to me, I'd put it on the market now.  It's mainly for my parents sake.  My mother is overly worried about me (acting like a mother) and want me to have some safety net.  They will pay the mortgage, but they want me to have a safety net.  I could care less, honestly.

You have to learn that living for your parents happiness means you will always be unhappy. They have to let go sometime. You're almost 31, right? I mean, good grief. My mother is awful about letting go. I am 23 and she thinks I am still 16, but thats her, I learned to ignore it and move on with my life as an adult. If it is your house, tell them you want to list it to see what becomes of it, got to Utah like you have nothing left in OK except for your parents and build your life there.

Come on, man. You're 31. You need a stable job, a lady who might marry you, and a good outlook on life. You need to independent from your parents, otherwise you'll just be serving them until they die, and when they do, you will be all alone, and I don't want that and I am sure no one else on this forum does either.

I might be hard on you, but I do truly care about your success, because you are a good man deep down and deserve a break. I hope some of the advice I have given is sound and you take it to heard. I will keep rooting and following your story, and I do hope it has a happy ending. Life is never easy regardless, but we make of it what we can.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Maybe I am a softy, I don't know.

But it does take guts to break away from overbearing parents. I do identify with you because my parents are the same way. I am the oldest child and the thought of me growing up and moving away is tough on them. So I know how they can guilt you into things. But be strong, do what you know you should for YOUR life and not theirs. They will be fine. All parents are in the end.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

How exciting. I raise a glass to you for new beginnings!

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

How can his parents afford that? $2,000 for 2 months? I don't think they are particularly wealthy in the first place.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

How can his parents afford that? $2,000 for 2 months? I don't think they are particularly wealthy in the first place.

Maybe they're financing things the way the US government does?

Maybe. I've always wondered how they manage to pay for all of his expenses while he has been out of work, like the house and the car, etc.. Maybe they are just driving into deep debt. He could rent an apartment month by month for much cheaper than staying in a hotel. I think the whole hotel thing is silly anyway. He needs to work on establishing himself there, not being a visitor until he think he will get fired.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

They might give you the leave, but when it comes time to downsize or fire someone, you might be the first to go... that's the only concern I would have about the Kenya trip. Jobs might give you the leave but they won't forget it when they think about their most dedicated employees. I am glad to hear things are going well though!

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

the question on all of our minds' is, is there a lady on the radar?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I don't understand why the hesitation to take the jump. It's like BushKE has one foot in and one foot in OK, and that's honestly the worst way to live a life.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I don't understand why the hesitation to take the jump. It's like BushKE has one foot in and one foot in OK, and that's honestly the worst way to live a life.

I'm about to take the second foot out of Oklahoma.  I'm getting into an apartment more than a month sooner than I had planned.  My hand is being forced into that, really, because my office location is moving to Salt Lake City 6 weeks earlier than originally thought.  October 15 instead of December 1.

And because you need to do it if you're seriously about staying in Utah. You won't truly be able to adapt or feel comfortable living out of an extended stay hotel. You'll just feel like a visitor.

Embrace Utah! Be on with their people! And you'll be fine.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

So wait.. wont you just have to go BACK to the DMV or whatever to get your info changed from a hotel to the apartment?

Yes ^^^ which is why this is so silly. I wish BushKE would just commit to Utah fully, find a permanent place to live and go all in. Otherwise, he will have one foot in OK and one in UT and end up letting it affect his work which will ultimately lead to getting fired. No one wants to see that.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

So wait.. wont you just have to go BACK to the DMV or whatever to get your info changed from a hotel to the apartment?

Yes ^^^ which is why this is so silly. I wish BushKE would just commit to Utah fully, find a permanent place to live and go all in. Otherwise, he will have one foot in OK and one in UT and end up letting it affect his work which will ultimately lead to getting fired. No one wants to see that.

Is one possibly two weeks not soon enough for you?

Two weeks is soon enough..

I just hope you stick to it and not make excuses. I'm sure you're not all that comfortable living out of an extended stay hotel.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

This story needs a real shot in the arm. A lady. A development at work. Something. Right now it's just a shell of its former self. We are arguing over weight that we all know he will never lose because it's in his upbringing and culture to eat unhealthy things. His parents never made health with their country cooking so he simple does not know how to live a healthy lifestyle. We really can't fault him too much. We are basically asking him to go against everything he has been taught in life.

For example, he was busy so he got a PIZZA for dinner. Hell, I am always busy, I am a law student, but I manage to get healthy food most of the time without cooking a huge meal. Even a grilled chicken sandwich is much better for you than a freaking pizza. But it makes sense to him. If you spent your whole life eating burgers, pot roasts with gravy, country fried steak, golden corral type food, you don't know of anything else. It would be like telling me to change my diet to a diet where I would gain 20 pounds in a month. I really couldn't eat food like that. It wouldn't be possible.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

BushKE, just get a grilled chicken sandwich if you're busy and need to eat. It's far more healthy than a pizza or a cheeseburger. It won't taste as good right now, but eventually you will adapt to eating healthy and start feeling sick whenever you do gorge your face with food that does nothing but give you heart disease and causes you to gain weight.