The Atlasian Tribune - Mechaman's column

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Hamilton has always enjoyed "playing up" his hatred of the RPP by citing the things he did as reason to hate us. It's a little game he plays.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Oh good grief. Life goes on. I'm sure Hamilton will be back in some other form, but sitting here posting article after article idolizing him is the stupidest thing I've seen in a while. I've tried to stay out of the trenches, because it isn't good for my mental state, but this is becoming too much. It's time to move on from this episode and try to return to a state of normalcy. You don't know what mental state he is in over the computer.

Also, I'm sure he'll read what you just wrote, if he didn't author it himself to have you post for him.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

He never threatened to leave if I didn't do things his way. In fact, PiT was the one who suggested I not allow the invalidation of the ballots, which I actually agreed with him on. There were always whispers of Hamilton wanting to be chairman of the RPP, form his own party, join the DA, and the like, but he would always put on a smile when he spoke with me. He threatened to leave, as did tmth, if I didn't kick either of them out of the party, to which I told both I wasn't doing any of that, and they could leave if they so chose. I still believe those two were closer than I could ever imagine during Hamilton's time in the RPP.

It's true that his whole purpose in this game was to be a powerful overlord. He once told friends he planned on being like bgwah - trolling around the forum for a few years, only to become the most powerful man in the game following all of that. Whether he believed it or not, well, that is for everyone else to decide. He loved to prey on kids with little or no self-esteem, talk to them about life, and then watch them become beholden to him. He was their "friend" and he could tell them to do anything he wanted, and they'd follow suit. If you didn't, you were an enemy of his, one who stood in his way. That's the way it was. He never cared for any of his "online" friends. They were only as good as what they could do for him.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Too bad, guys, you don't know that during Autumn Hamilton had diffrent ideas and was talking to me about creating a Social Democratic Party, also wanting Antonio to be in.

Not surprising at all. At the time, Kal and me were Hamilton's Libertas and Segway. His fanclub was composed of leftist, so he had to be one too. I remember him calling himself a "progressive" repeatedly and even a "socialist" once. So he left the PCP (because people here were starting to know him too well) and joined the LNF.

When Kal and me started to understand who he was (quite late unfortunately), he started to gather a bunch of unexperienced newbies like Libertas, Einzige, Winston, Giovanni and (at the time) Mechman. Since they were all libertarians, Hamilton converted himself to "small government" and founded the ARC.

And BTW, Kal's "impulsivenesses" and successive resignations, his unfounded angers against Marokai and Bgwah have a lot to do with Hamilton. As he did with me, he managed to manipulate him (by convincing him that JCP was plotting to make fail his candidacy) in order to ruin his carreer. Fortunately, it's now time for a new beginning.

You are correct. That's something that I tried to point out to sane ones in the past, but it seemed like much of it fell on deaf ears. In the RPP, he'd walk around claiming he was a liberal, and he wanted to nationalize the financial system. Once he left us to form the ARC, he decided he was a small government, pro-freedom guy, who wanted a free market economy and free run of everything. He chastised the RPP for being too right winged, and then spoke of how he wanted ideological purity in the ARC. It was amusing for me to read, but sad, at the same time, to see many of the people here actually believe what he was saying.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Vepres makes some good points, but Marokai nailed it when he talked about the poor leadership and unity within the RPP following the June 09 elections, and I think that speaks more to our troubles than anything else. The problem in the right of Atlasia is, there are too many competing personalities who lust more for personal power than winning elections. One thing I admire about the left is that they always seem to come together under a goal of furthering their collective interests, rather than their personal goals.

On the right, we are still fighting. It started with tmth, who joined the RPP and threatened to leave the party if we didn't make him happy, and continued with Hamilton, who tried to first tear apart the RPP internally, and then with the ARC. Today, we have several right leaning parties which do not work together. They hurl insults towards the RPP, fail to preference our candidates, and then complain when the left cleans clock in national elections. The leaders that be are more interested in forming their own legion of followers than actually winning. If not, we'd all unite under one umbrella. We did early on and did well, but it didn't last.


As for your comment, Antonio, it's ironic you mention the RPP should stop opposing the financial bills, because I think our current delegation (myself and Yankee) actually are a bit more pragmatic than our past candidates. Hell, I failed to get votes from several of my party members because I'm too "liberal" in my politics, and I got better preferences from the DA than I did from the ARC (which may show either that I'm not a hard-right winger, or that they were just told by Hamilton that I was some right winged authoritarian, who knows.)

In many ways, the right is going through the same growing pains that the left did prior to the JCP uniting. Whether someone sets up and disbands for the good of the right wing in Atlasia, as Marokai did when the SDP died, remains to be seen.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

To clarify, my post is not meant to sound like I am whining that we do not receive support from other right leaning parties, but it is merely to point out that some of the vitriol coming out of their camps were more pointed towards the RPP than the left leaning parties. If there was concern about actually winning elections on the right, the coalitions should not sit around and fight with each other. It is, in many ways, our fault that we are in this state right now. The tables have turned from the days when the RPP was dominating.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

To clarify, my post is not meant to sound like I am whining that we do not receive support from other right leaning parties, but it is merely to point out that some of the vitriol coming out of their camps were more pointed towards the RPP than the left leaning parties. If there was concern about actually winning elections on the right, the coalitions should not sit around and fight with each other. It is, in many ways, our fault that we are in this state right now. The tables have turned from the days when the RPP was dominating.

Too bad you are one of the main roadblocks to any such progress behind closed doors, Duke. Your public lying needs to stop. I have never seen a single sensible utterance from your keyboard. Not only that, but you have horrible politics that I'm not going to support. Bailouts, cap and trade, gun control, abortion, etc. all disgust me intensely. I feel no different voting for someone like Kalwejt and voting for you when it comes right down to it.

You know, it's good to back up such bold claims with actual facts. Otherwise, your statements will fall of deaf ears. If you want to discuss this in private, then fine, because I will not respond to any public accusations you make from here on out in this thread.That said, I'd love to hear how I am a "roadblock" and how I apparently lie in public - considering those are two huge charges. But don't worry, I'm not pandering for the votes from characters such as yourself. I'm just merely pointing out, as you just beautifully demonstrated, the infighting occurring on the right, and how many of us would rather support a far-leftist as opposed to someone in the middle, rather than forming a broad coalition for victory. Until we can all put aside our differences, we will always be far behind, and the JCP will continue to dominate elections. This is, of course, the mindset of most libertarians such as yourself - I'd rather be dominated by someone with views that are completely opposite of my own rather than someone who is somewhat different than my own! This is what has made the Republican Party so successful (purge those who have any differing views!) in 2006 and 2008.

Keep fighting the good fight!

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Ah, OK. I was mistaken. I see you aren't interested in having a serious discussion. I guess it was too much to ask. Good luck in your endeavors!

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Ah, OK. I was mistaken. I see you aren't interested in having a serious discussion. I guess it was too much to ask. Good luck in your endeavors!

A serious discussion with who? Certainly not you?

You're generalizations, sarcasm, condescension, fallacies, assumptions, and misinformation make your post devoid if anything even hinting toward serious discussion.

I'm perfectly capable of having a serious discussion, and I'm confident most will agree sans you and your followers, oh wise one. You'll find that it's difficult to be taken seriously when you begin your arguments with personal attacks, lies, and baseless statements trying to somehow intimidate your foe. But I realize you have your little clique, and if it makes you feel special, then more power to you.

Again, if you do want to have a serious discussion, complete with evidence and statements from those in question, you know the location of my mailbox. If you are not interested, then I guess this is the end of the line. Honestly, I'd love to be told how I am a roadblock, a liar, and the like, because I certainly need to change if that is the case! So please, entertain me, I'm free all afternoon.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Where did I personally attack you? Again with this faux outrage...

And I'd still love to have someone explain to me how I am one of the foremost opponents of cooperation, as segwaystyle has not PM'd me yet. Until they do, I'll take it is just a rallying cry to get your followers to oppose me, nothing more.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Where did I personally attack you? Again with this faux outrage...

Duke, please don't feign ignorance. You have attacked me on many occasions claiming I was a puppet of Hamilton, and more recently claiming I 'reverted to old form', whatever the hell that was supposed to mean.

I don't know why you treat me like sh**t, but you do.

Oh, I see. It isn't hard to notice that when you had taken up the hobby of defending Hamilton at every turn, even in threads that had nothing to do with him. When you begin attacking people in threads that are unwarranted, it is your old form. At one point, you had cut the crap like this out, and you seemed to have promise.

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What does segwaystyle have to do with what I said? You know what I am referring to.

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Actually, no. I don't. Segway and you have both claimed I am some sort of block to cooperation, yet neither one of you will explain to me exactly how, rather you resort to the "you know what I am talking about" game as if I know, and then go silent.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

To clarify, I offered the chairmanship to tmth, and even pledged to work hard to make sure he got the votes to win. I wanted to see if his strategy would work. We then had a knock down, drag out fight which both of us lost our tempers, as tmth seemed hesitant to implement his plans and accused me of mocking him in some manner. He was already Vice-Chair, and I had no qualms with him taking over. I disagreed with airing our laundry in the public square, but wanted to see if it would work. He left the party without warning rather than taking the reigns. He could've had it. He didn't want it. I don't want people to think we somehow forced him out, because that certainly was not the case. There were forces (mostly Hamilton, and I'm sure tmth is much more involved with him than we know) that were too powerful to keep his cronies in the RPP. They would've left regardless of what DWTL did. Josh left for other reasons,  but he still remains in close contact with us, and a close ally of mine. NiK was always working with Hamilton, I believe, but pretended to be our ally in order to poach information out of us. If that's untrue, he can correct me, but that's what I've been told. I like NiK, so I hope it isn't true.

In short, we don't need to keep those people around. I don't really appreciate tmth making this to be more than it is, nor do I appreciate his fanfare, interviews and such regarding his Senate race that he's in one day, leaves the next, and then reenters. If I need to open up the chronicles of the RPP during my time as Chairman, I can, but I would rather not. Let's just say, it doesn't make any of us look good, and tmth would come out looking like a complete fool.