OH: More Money Stuff (August)

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Jesus H Christ, Ohio Democrats must be the most miserable people in the country to be around

It's starting to make sense why Badger is a Republican. lol

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Only on Atlas will you find people that think an open Ohio gubernatorial race is safe R and an Alabama Senate election is lean/likely D, lol.

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Only on Atlas will you find people that think an open Ohio gubernatorial race is safe R and an Alabama Senate election is lean/likely D, lol.

Of that states Democrats not named Hillary Clinton or Robby Mook don't write off at the start, Ohio is the state Democrats should be most worried about making gains in next year. Georgia, which has long been fool's gold, looks better.

I agree with you there. I think this race is lean R, maybe even likely R. But if 2018 ends up being a super hyper overwhelming unfathomable massive unprecedented Democratic tsunami where they win the Alabama and Texas Senate races and 100+ House races like many here seem to think, then Cordray probably will win despite the weird hate boner you all have for him.

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Only on Atlas will you find people that think an open Ohio gubernatorial race is safe R and an Alabama Senate election is lean/likely D, lol.

Of that states Democrats not named Hillary Clinton or Robby Mook don't write off at the start, Ohio is the state Democrats should be most worried about making gains in next year. Georgia, which has long been fool's gold, looks better.

I agree with you there. I think this race is lean R, maybe even likely R. But if 2018 ends up being a super hyper overwhelming unfathomable massive unprecedented Democratic tsunami where they win the Alabama and Texas Senate races and 100+ House races like many here seem to think, then Cordray probably will win despite the weird hate boner you all have for him.

Hah. Hate boner. My feelings on Cordray are more mixed than my Atlas persona lets on.

I think Cordray would do a great job as Governor, but he seems to be a real bore on the trail. And we saw how that worked out with Hillary.

I also think entering so late is going to cost serious money come the general. You have 4 candidates who, although they may not be as well known, are still fairly serious and have been campaigning for the better part of the year. Expecting them to clear out now is foolish.

And as good a job Cordray's done at the CFPB, I just see the OH GOP resurrecting Rob's playbook against Ted. Failed politician, Washington insider. Not a fair allegation, but it's got a lot of potential. Cordray benefits from name ID and, presumably, financial ties, but I'd prefer running someone younger and local. Because the Rob playbook scares me.

Also, like it or not, we need to win back some Trump voters for Democrats to win in Ohio, and given the Rob playbook, I don't think Cordray is the one who can do that. I think we need someone young, who's not been off to Washington. That's why I like Joe Schiavoni and Nan Whaley.

I understand Atlas has a weird obsession with Cordray as some white knight thanks to TD's timeline and his heretofore scarily accurate predictions, but Cordray is not some savior for Ohio Democrats.

I'm not sure if the last sentence was aimed at me or not, but I don't see him as a uniquely good or bad candidate. I think he's decent and probably better than the rest of the field which seems pretty pitiful. All I'm saying is that if Democrats can win TX/AL and tons of safe R House races, then Cordray can easily win too. Despite his supposed "unbeatable titan" opponents of Mike "Blanched in 2006" DeWine and Jon "stop the blacks from voting" Husted.

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Been waiting for 7 years to see Cordray finish what happened against DeWine. I hope Cordray defeats DeWine and begins to rebuild the old Democratic coalition in OH in the Appalachian Southeast and the industrial northeast.

Cordray is going to get beaten to a bloody pulp in Appalachia. Appalachia Ohio is gone to the dems completely. If he regains the losses along the lake and in Mahoning valley while holding D gains in Columbus suburbs and Hamilton county he'll win, but the ohio Appalachia dem coalition is dead and buried under mountains of coal and fracking materials.

Preach.

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Hearing credible rumors Nina Turner is going to jump in.

LOL, good lord. Ohio Dems are a hot mess.

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All that's missing is Jerry Springer and Ed Fitzgerald at this point.

Don't forget Nina Turner.

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OMG YES KUCINICH

Nevermind. http://www.cleveland.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/01/dennis_kucinich_cheers_preside.html
That's lame.

Yes, forget Assad, the real issue is the fact that Dennis the Menace is a Trump supporter now.

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I doubt 90% of people outside the Cleveland area even remember Kucinich.

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If the majority of the voters of that district have any brains at all, this attack will backfire big-time.

This is a big ask for Murica.

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If the majority of the voters of that district have any brains at all, this attack will backfire big-time.

This is a big ask for Murica.

Helle's running in a district Obama won twice and Democrats held at the state legislative level up until 2014 -- not Pennsyltucky.

shhh, don't trouble IceSpear with political geography east of the Rockies and west of the Alleghenies

LOL, nice one.

I wasn't actually making any type of judgment about the district, I didn't even look it up. I was just speaking in general. If you draw a random American district out of a hat, that initial post would be a big ask.