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  Adolf Hitler and a gorilla are drowning in a river. You can only save 1. (search mode)
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Question: Who do you save?
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Adolf Hitler
 
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The gorilla
 
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IceSpear
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« on: August 09, 2016, 06:28:12 PM »

Only on Atlas would this be a controversial question.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2016, 06:00:19 PM »

On further consideration I'd probably save the gorilla.

Sorry, Antonio, but, while in almost any other hypothetical of this kind I'd agree with you, it's Hitler.

If you start making exceptions for Hitler, it's very easy to be tempted to make more. Past and present times are ripe with horrible people who did horrible things. Where do we draw the line, then? Surely, it can't be only Hitler, or someone should explain to the victims of Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot why their tormentors weren't bad enough to deserve the same fate. And then, what about Franco, Suharto and the like? They killed a lot of people - not quite as many as those others, but is that really a relevant distinction? And why stop at tyrants? What about Tim McVeigh, Omar Mateen or the forever-unnamed people who bombed Piazza Fontana? What about Charles Manson? How many people does someone need to have killed to deserve being left to die? Isn't one enough? And hell, why stop at killers? Aren't some acts even worse than murder? What does Josef Fritzl deserve?

And yes, I realize it's a bit rich for me to make a slippery slope argument after I've rejected such arguments in other discussions (including with you). I just think this is the one right that can't tolerate any exception without eventually collapsing altogether. Also, as much as I like virtue ethics, I'm very suspicious of any moral reasoning that tends to divide humanity into "bad people" and "everybody else".

Yes, I'd save the gorilla over all of those (normal)
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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2016, 01:27:33 AM »

Harambe: Brought joy to millions

Hitler: Responsible for the genocide of the European Jewry


Hmmm tough one

You're clearly not taking into account that if you kill Hitler, you must also kill Stalin and Pol Pot. Checkmate.
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