Is the Republican Party a White Nationalist Party now?

[IceSpear]

Obviously. We'll see if they try to fix themselves if Trump loses, but I'm not holding my breath.

[IceSpear]

Sure, but after years of SJW writing articles calling ethnic restaurants (and other silly, harmless crap) cultural appropriation, and now NBPP shooting up cops, let's not pretend the left hasn't been pushing racial strife. White people are perfectly reasonable if they're not feeling constantly under attack by PC culture. The chickens are coming home to roost for us.

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This one of many things making it worse.

For those who argue that the Republican Party is a party of "White Nationalists" one could easily argue that the Democratic Party and Left in America in general is "anti-white."

Hell even look at IceSpear's views on West Virginia(even though a guy who lives in Philadelphia really has no business trashing WV)

LOL at the bolded. Told you guys! This is current Republican orthodoxy, more prevalent in places like Appalachia and the Deep South, but present all over the country as well.

I don't see what my views on West Virginia have to do with anything. Since when do racist hicks = all white people?

[IceSpear]

LOL, Whites in Philadelphia are at least as racist as Whites in WV; it's really not relevant that they're also liberal...?

gr8 b8 m8

[IceSpear]

LOL, Whites in Philadelphia are at least as racist as Whites in WV; it's really not relevant that they're also liberal...?

gr8 b8 m8

Am I totally misinformed that Whites in inner cities of the East Coast have had a very, very dubious history with race problems?

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought we were discussing the present day. Next you'll tell me about how virtuous and non racist West Virginia is due to an event from 150 years ago.

[IceSpear]

LOL, Whites in Philadelphia are at least as racist as Whites in WV; it's really not relevant that they're also liberal...?

gr8 b8 m8

Am I totally misinformed that Whites in inner cities of the East Coast have had a very, very dubious history with race problems?

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought we were discussing the present day. Next you'll tell me about how virtuous and non racist West Virginia is due to an event from 150 years ago.

And what exactly has changed in this present day?  I've met plenty of racists from big cities.  You act as if being a Democrat is like an automatic not-a-racist card.

Now you're changing the subject. Obviously racism is everywhere. It is also obviously more concentrated per capita in certain areas of the country.

[IceSpear]

LOL, Whites in Philadelphia are at least as racist as Whites in WV; it's really not relevant that they're also liberal...?

gr8 b8 m8

Am I totally misinformed that Whites in inner cities of the East Coast have had a very, very dubious history with race problems?

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought we were discussing the present day. Next you'll tell me about how virtuous and non racist West Virginia is due to an event from 150 years ago.

And what exactly has changed in this present day?  I've met plenty of racists from big cities.  You act as if being a Democrat is like an automatic not-a-racist card.

Now you're changing the subject. Obviously racism is everywhere. It is also obviously more concentrated per capita in certain areas of the country.

And, if I were to guess, I would say those areas are rural communities and inner cities.

Suburbanites are perfect people who are always right!

Yes, Forsyth County, GA is a beacon of racial tolerance and enlightenment. LOL

[IceSpear]

Are you really going to sit here and argue that racism in West Virginia is somehow worse than racism in The Holy Democratic Mecha of Boston, Massachusetts?

Uh...yes?

I mean really, it's this type of elitist horsesh**t that has enabled the GOP to take over so many formerly Democratic bastions of the South, and subject a region full of poor people to "Muh trickle-down economics."

No, that would be racism/sexism/xenophobia/homophobia/other assorted bigotry.

Instead of promoting racial equality while at the same time supporting economic policies that help both poor blacks and poor whites,

Pretty sure we already have a president that does that. Remind me what parts of Obama's economic policy exempt poor whites again? You'll need to let the millions of them in Appalachia that have health insurance for the first time know. They still hate him anyway though, for obvious reasons.

Meanwhile, as you were sitting here crying yourself to sleep over the idea of the first female president, Donald Trump snuck in and convinced many poor white people that their enemy was definitely not the 1%'ers that run the GOP; the same people who pay them $7.25/hr and only give them 25 hours per week, meaning they have to work a second awful job. Instead, he blamed it all not only on immigrants, but on greedy democrats who made over $150 million on speaking fees alone.

LOL, they were already convinced of that back when Donald Trump was a liberal Democrat and Hillary Clinton's speeches hadn't even occured yet. Nice try though. You did hit the mark on xenophobia, but you forgot to mention the racism, homophobia, misogyny, etc.

How was he able to do such a thing?

By appealing to bigotry.

Oh, that's right, because as it would turn out, Donald Trump is actually at his best when he talks about Hillary Clinton, and avoids pretty much any other topic of conversation.

That's funny, I recall him surging due to calling Mexicans murderers and rapists, before he uttered a single sentence about Hillary Clinton. Maybe my memory deceives me...

West Virginians and other impoverished southerners might not be so uptight about black people and hispanics if they actually had a party that fought for their situation instead of spitting in their collective faces telling them how racist, and stupid they are.

So it's not their fault for being racists, it's the Democrats' fault for not catering to their precious racist fee fees. That's some brilliant logic there.

Hell maybe Donald Trump and the Republicans wouldn't be polling 60% in a state that based on demographics should still be a Democratic stronghold, if the Clintonites didn't openly state that they want to take away one of the few major sources of jobs in a state that is already very impoverished in comparison to most parts of the country.

Again with this silliness? Republicans would be polling at 60%+ under any circumstances because the state has changed. He was already doing so before the misinterpreted coal comment was even made. And by the way, Natalie Tennant never made comments like that (in fact, she was even endorsed by the United Mine Workers) and still got thumped by nearly 30 points. Guess that doesn't fit the narrative. By the way, I'm pretty sure a "Clintonite" was the last Democrat to carry your precious West Virginia. Also, St. Bernard was also polling 20+ points behind Trump. I guess he gave some paid speeches I'm unaware of?

Also, I'd just like to point out I find it hilarious that a Bernie Sanders voter who insists the Democrats should be more economically populist is now supporting a libertarian. That was seriously the cherry on top of this entire post. He wants to cut the budget in half, shred the social safety net, and abolish corporate taxes, but at least he didn't give speeches talking about world travel and diplomatic missions to those meanies at Goldman Sachs! LMAO!

[IceSpear]

LOL, Whites in Philadelphia are at least as racist as Whites in WV; it's really not relevant that they're also liberal...?

gr8 b8 m8

Am I totally misinformed that Whites in inner cities of the East Coast have had a very, very dubious history with race problems?

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought we were discussing the present day. Next you'll tell me about how virtuous and non racist West Virginia is due to an event from 150 years ago.

Well that's why the South is racist, right?

No?

[IceSpear]

Are you really going to sit here and argue that racism in West Virginia is somehow worse than racism in The Holy Democratic Mecha of Boston, Massachusetts?

Uh...yes?

ayy lmao

I'd ask if you've ever been to West Virginia, but I think I already know the answer and anecdotal evidence is worthless anyway. How about this: According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, there are more racist/Neo-Nazi/KKK hate groups in West Virginia than in Massachusetts despite only having about 1/4 of the population. I know, it doesn't match up with your feels. Facts are stubborn things though.

[IceSpear]

Aren't the most prominent examples of institutionalised racism in cities? I.e. The large metropolitan police forces, the housing departments, the planners etc.

Probably because there are more minorities concentrated in cities. It would be more difficult to have documented institutionalized racism in some lily white rural enclave since there's nobody to discriminate against. I'm referring to the racist attitudes of the general populace per capita anyway, not institutionalized racism.

[IceSpear]

Are you really going to sit here and argue that racism in West Virginia is somehow worse than racism in The Holy Democratic Mecha of Boston, Massachusetts?

Uh...yes?

ayy lmao

I'd ask if you've ever been to West Virginia, but I think I already know the answer and anecdotal evidence is worthless anyway. How about this: According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, there are more racist/Neo-Nazi/KKK hate groups in West Virginia than in Massachusetts despite only having about 1/4 of the population. I know, it doesn't match up with your feels. Facts are stubborn things though.

I live in Boston, you know, and I've been to most parts of northern and central Appalachia at one time or another, so unless you think there's a magical racism force field at the West Virginia state line, I think I've developed a decent feel for what the culture is like there through time spent in south-central Pennsylvania/western Maryland/western Virginia.

I'm referring to the racist attitudes of the general populace per capita anyway, not institutionalized racism.

I'm sure actual black and Hispanic people would be gratified to hear you say so.

Well again, anecdotal evidence doesn't mean very much, and you completely ignored the piece of empirical data I mentioned.

As for what black and Hispanic people would be gratified about, I don't think they'd be too keen on blaming the Democratic Party for racism because they're not good enough at coddling racists. And I was simply stating the obvious. There's going to be more institutional racism in places with a higher concentration of minorities. That's just common sense. Unless, speaking of magic, you think if you magically transferred all urban minorities to rural Appalachia that institutional racism would vanish overnight. I know a lot of things would happen overnight though if that happened, and they're not good things.