Are you satisfied with the TRUMP-CLINTON race?

[IceSpear]

Yes. I really like Hillary, of course. The chances of the Republicans nominating someone who isn't terrible in this day and age are infinitesimally low, so I'm not even going to bother considering that side of the equation. Though it was pretty fun seeing Trump destroy the party and the images of several of its "rising stars."

[IceSpear]

People forget that Hillary was considered "inevitable" originally not because of her strength or that the party was rigging the primary towards her, but because the Democratic bench for President is pretty much nothing. Coming into 2016, pre-Trump when many were expecting the Republicans to be favored, the only candidates talked about as having a chance at winning the general were Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Andrew Cuomo, John Hickenlooper, and maybe Kirsten Gillibrand or Elizabeth Warren if Hillary said no.

I don't agree with that at all.  There were plenty of potential presidential candidates who would have had as good a chance as anyone in a general election, who simply chose not to run because it was clear to them that they couldn't beat Hillary Clinton for the nomination.  I'm pretty much with Jonathan Bernstein on this:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-03-12/democrats-have-no-bench-be-serious-

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I'll go down this list:

-Martin O'Malley

We saw how well he did.

-Elizabeth Warren

-Would have loved

-Andrew Cuomo

Every crazy thing r/bernieforpresident says about Hillary can be accurately said about Cuomo.

-Al Franken, Tim Kaine, Mark Warner, Michael Bennet, Jeanne Shaheen, John Hickenlooper, Maggie Hassan

"Generic Democrats only brought up because they are from swing states"

-Mike Beebe



-Christine Gregoire

Wasn't even that popular in Washington, Hillary-lite

-Sherrod Brown

-Again, would have been great but not sure if he makes for a good presidential candidate

-Kirsten Gillibrand

Hillary-lite

-Deval Patrick

Bain Capital employee

Something tells me that Cuomo wouldn't have been hated nearly as much by the Reddit bros though...just a hunch.

[IceSpear]

Not at all satisfied.  I have serious reservations about Hillary Clinton's foreign policy and her temperament.  This is the same person that quit being SoS 3 years ago because she said she was too tired and wasn't interesting in holding political office anymore.  It also annoys me that some great female democrats that I would have supported in a heartbeat didn't run because of her coronation.

As for Trump, pretty much every bad thing that's been said about him on this forum is true.

Terrible election.

...what? Very few cabinet members stay for all 8 years of a president's time in office. For Obama, literally only one person (Vilsack) has.

[IceSpear]

Not at all satisfied.  I have serious reservations about Hillary Clinton's foreign policy and her temperament.  This is the same person that quit being SoS 3 years ago because she said she was too tired and wasn't interesting in holding political office anymore.  It also annoys me that some great female democrats that I would have supported in a heartbeat didn't run because of her coronation.

As for Trump, pretty much every bad thing that's been said about him on this forum is true.

Terrible election.

...what? Very few cabinet members stay for all 8 years of a president's time in office. For Obama, literally only one person (Vilsack) has.

She's the only one of them that's running for President.  Besides, it's still true that she claimed she was stepping down because she was too tired.

So a cabinet member is disqualified for president unless they serve all 8 years? I've never heard that before.

Good thing 2 years of rest was enough for her to get untired, so she can now be our glorious nominee.