Clinton supporters, are you scared that Hillary will blow it?

[IceSpear]

I'm somewhat worried the country would be dumb enough to elect Trump regardless of the quality of Hillary's campaign.

[IceSpear]

Yes, of course I am concerned.  I would have prefered a stronger candidate, such as, say, Cuomo. The cost of failure is too high in this case.

Damn, they must have some good stuff down in Mexico.

[IceSpear]

Yes, of course I am concerned.  I would have prefered a stronger candidate, such as, say, Cuomo. The cost of failure is too high in this case.

wat?

Thanks for bolding the part I think is important. Cuomo would have been stronger: he is a better politician.

You mean better in doing politics than Hillary? I agree. However, I can't see him as a stronger nationwide candidate.

Also, the Atlas would have a collective meltdown (and I'm one of those who consider hatred toward Cuomo rather overblown).

Well, the last reason is why I chose Cuomo as an example

Cuomo would have been a far stronger candidate: he is both centrist and a good politician. Radicalism does not make a good general eleciton candidate.

Yeah, he's such a great candidate and politician that he got only 62% against a some chick in the primary...as an incumbent governor. And got an amazing 54% in the general as an incumbent governor...in sapphire blue New York.

[IceSpear]

If I say yes, will I get relentlessly castigated for it?

Of course. That being said, I don't think the GE begins until the Democratic nomination is decided. There are still two candidates who claim they can win the nomination. One step at a time.

Ron Paul also claimed he could win the nomination until the conventions in 2008/2012. It never stopped the media from crowning McCain/Romney as presumptive nominees even before they clinched a majority of delegates. I find this double standard amusing.

[IceSpear]

Yes, very worried. But it will be America's fault, not Hillary's. God himself could proclaim that Hillary Clinton is the second coming of Jesus and there'd still be a huge number of people holding her to ridiculous standards and hating her guts.

The scariest part, for me, is how her being a woman will play into the dynamics of the race. For a long time, especially before the rise of Sanders, I really anticipated that Hillary would get Obama treatment and her campaign would end up being a feminist movement with real appeal for its potential to make history. With Sanders and Trump, the movement has been and will continue to be seriously blunted, and I fear Trump will be able to shout her down and use the man card to rip her apart. I guess I fear that the men's rights crowd will win the day. The discussion around sexism is today more nuanced than the discussion about race was in 2008... and when you're explaining, you're losing.

You thought the media would give Hillary the rockstar Obama treatment?! Damn dude, you're way too optimistic for your own good.

My BEST CASE SCENARIO in 2013-early 2014 was them at least treating her neutrally. But it was obvious by mid 2014 when she did her round of interviews and the media orgasmed about "dead broke" for 6 months (which would've been a 2 day story for any other politician) that they were going to treat her just as bad at best and most likely way worse than they did in 2007-2008. And they did indeed do much worse. At least 8 years ago they didn't manufacture and spam faux scandals whenever they needed her numbers to fall for the sake of ratings and the horse race.

[IceSpear]

They'd rather lose with Hillary than win with Bernie.

Tell you what jfern...prove that Bernie is guaranteed to win and that Hillary is guaranteed to lose and I'll switch to supporting him.