National poll by Quinniepiac: Rubio jumps ahead

[IceSpear]

That's not possible ... Hillary is inevitable !

IceBear told me so.

LOL

1) I never said Hillary was inevitable in the general
2) Weren't you just saying a couple days ago Hillary was actually ahead 5-10 points while you were desperately trying to discredit the CNN poll? Please at least try to stay consistent and end your cherry picking
3) You really shouldn't be judging the prognostication of others with gems like these:

So, Hillary already dropped 5% or so this week compared to previous polls and she'll likely drop another 5% right after she announces her run.

Creating a tied race already.

And in the end she might lose too (maybe even in a landslide).

I told you Hillary-fetishists early about this, but you were not listening ...

I'll ask you again how you feel about her chances in a few months when she has announced her candidacy and already has negative favorable ratings and trails Bush and Walker in the polls ...

I'm sure they'll be tied any day now! LMFAO! Just look at that Bushmentum!

[IceSpear]

Sorry, dude, but ANYTHING can happen in politics, even Hillary losing the election

Again, when did I ever say Hillary couldn't lose the election?

As for Maryland, nearly everyone who followed politics got that one wrong.

[IceSpear]

Disappointed in IceSpear.

I'll keep on saying it. Hillary can't lose this general election.

Sorry King, but you're way too optimistic even for me. I've never thought she was guaranteed to win the general, and if anything my confidence that she will has gone down lately due to the all out, universal, and perpetual media assault on her over the past few months. I'm starting to think they'll do everything in their power to keep her out of the White House, and I'm not sure if she can overcome that. Her biggest obstacle to winning the WH is not Scott Walker or Jeb Bush, but the overtly hostile media.

[IceSpear]

Disappointed in IceSpear.

I'll keep on saying it. Hillary can't lose this general election.

Leading by 2 points nationally over a year before the election does not give you a 100% chance of victory.

That would be cherrypicking. The aggregate still has her leading all the Republicans by 8-13 points.

[IceSpear]

Disappointed in IceSpear.

I'll keep on saying it. Hillary can't lose this general election.

Leading by 2 points nationally over a year before the election does not give you a 100% chance of victory.

That would be cherrypicking. The aggregate still has her leading all the Republicans by 8-13 points.

Most recent polls have the race in single digits(with the potential exception of Ted Cruz) The CNN poll is a joke

Yes, the aggregate has the "serious candidates" with an 8-9 point deficit, and the others with a 10-13 point deficit.

[IceSpear]

I'm not optimistic. I like Rand Paul more than Hillary just for intrigue factor. But this is Hillary's election. No other way to slice it.

So how do you think she overcomes the hostile media? Just out of curiosity.

Don't get me wrong, it's certainly possible for her to do so. And she's obviously still the favorite (and would be a lock if the election were held today.) But I think it lessens her odds significantly from what they would otherwise be. I'd give her something like 60-65%.

[IceSpear]

Its probably closer if you remove CNN and ABC/WaPo from the average, not like this matters given that the election is not for over a year, I wonder why these networks and pollsters waste money on polls of elections that are so far away

I can see the argument for CNN since it's among adults, but I don't know why you'd exclude the WaPo poll when it was among RVs. Either way, the fact remains that this is certainly not a 2 point race and to describe it as such would involve cherrypicking. At the moment, it seems more like Hillary is winning by an Obama 2008-esque margin against the non joke candidates.

[IceSpear]

The media will be on Hillary's side once she is the nominee. They are desperate for Warren or O'Mallet to emerge

Possibly, but I'm skeptical, particularly if Jeb or Rubio is the Republican nominee, both of whom they seem to love. We'll see I guess.