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IceSpear
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« on: January 03, 2015, 07:15:31 PM »

In a year like 2008 with the financial crisis going on she would have been great. In a year like 2016 with a (most likely) unpopular Democratic President and the Midwest trending R, she's got no chance.

This is true. Warren's views actually would've been perfect for a post financial crisis 2008.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2015, 07:16:25 PM »

In a year like 2008 with the financial crisis going on she would have been great. In a year like 2016 with a (most likely) unpopular Democratic President and the Midwest trending R, she's got no chance.

I don't think people in the Midwest have forgotten about the financial crisis and have since warmed up to Wall Street. Warren has no connections to Obama like Hilllary does, and there is still plenty of anger over our unfair rigged economic system all across the country, including the Midwest.

They haven't "warmed up" to Wall Street, but the anger is nowhere near as potent as it was, from say, 2008-2011.
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2015, 08:29:25 PM »
« Edited: January 03, 2015, 08:31:23 PM by IceSpear »

In a year like 2008 with the financial crisis going on she would have been great. In a year like 2016 with a (most likely) unpopular Democratic President and the Midwest trending R, she's got no chance.

I don't think people in the Midwest have forgotten about the financial crisis and have since warmed up to Wall Street. Warren has no connections to Obama like Hilllary does, and there is still plenty of anger over our unfair rigged economic system all across the country, including the Midwest.

They haven't "warmed up" to Wall Street, but the anger is nowhere near as potent as it was, from say, 2008-2011.

It is still a message that will resonate with all the but the most ardent of Teabaggers.

Our economic system is fundamentally rigged. Elizabeth Warren knows this and a strong Warren campaign can get the message out about just how rigged our system is in favor of big banks while screwing over ordinary Americans.

Elizabeth Warren has a message. A winning message. And her message doesn't just include identifying the problems but proposing solutions. It's about time we had a president with real ideas and a vision for improving what many people across the United States- including Midwesterners- still view as a fragile and weak economy where it is tough for ordinary Americans to find jobs and the jobs they do find often don't pay enough to support themselves or their families, regardless of what the economists' numbers on paper say. Meanwhile the banksters are reaping record profits and the recent budget further loosened restrictions on banks indicating that the mainstream establishment of the Democratic Party hasn't learned from the crisis either- or they are in the pockets of the banks themselves, like President Obama.

Hillary Clinton has no message. She has no ideas. Her platform on her website will consist of generic Democratic platitudes that some staffer will write up that she won't even read. The same will go for her speeches. She will expect to win the presidency just because she is Hillary Clinton. Wall Street will support her enthusiastically. She will do nothing to reform our economic system but will continue the status quo policies of Obama. Hillary really is the Tom Dewey of 2016.

If it resonates with everyone besides ardent teabaggers, then why did Warren underperform Obama by 15 points in 2012 in a state where teabaggers are basically irrelevant? Yes, Scott Brown was popular, but if Warren's message is apparently so powerful that it's going to completely upend trends and modern political coalitions and bring millions of Republican voters on the Democratic train, you think we would've seen some evidence of that, rather than the exact opposite occuring.

And lol at that last paragraph. This forum is like a magnet for anti-Hillary hacks.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2015, 08:44:29 PM »


What? If you're referring to Hillary, she is inevitable. Warren isn't running and she's the only one that would have a prayer against her.
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