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Question: Who will the Democrats nominate?
#1
Hillary
 
#2
not Hillary
 
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Total Voters: 69

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IceSpear
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« on: December 01, 2014, 04:17:04 PM »

If democrats dont nominate Hillary then they willingly forfeited the moderate vote in favor of the liberal-left wing of the democratic party, which only compose 20% of the voting public in retrospect.

I'm still a registered democrat and IF she runs i'll be voting for her regardless of what democraticunderground,dailykos, alternet, TPM, or heck even msnbc says.

If she doesnt run or loses the nomination to a far left candidate whether it be O'malley, Warren or sanders. Then this will be the first time i'm voting republican.

The owner of Daily Kos actually supports Hillary now, lol.

Oh how times have changed...
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2014, 06:48:00 PM »

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It's still too early to know what will happen.

Yes, Hillary led by around 20 points at this time in 2006. Now she leads by 40-50 points.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2014, 07:08:47 PM »

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It's still too early to know what will happen.

Yes, Hillary led by around 20 points at this time in 2006. Now she leads by 40-50 points.

Your point?

My point is that it's nothing like 2008.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2014, 07:32:22 PM »

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It's still too early to know what will happen.

Yes, Hillary led by around 20 points at this time in 2006. Now she leads by 40-50 points.

Your point?

My point is that it's nothing like 2008.

No election is the same.  But would you bet your house on Hilary winning the nomination?  I bet you wouldn't.

As for you KCDem, having seen your predictions, I would say that describes you pretty accurately.

That depends. Does the risk only kick in once she declares? Because there's still a small chance she doesn't run. Even though it's small, it's magnitudes higher than the chance of her getting defeated in the primary.

Assuming she runs, the only way I'd see her not winning the nomination would be if she gets hit with a mega scandal and has to drop out, or dies before the DNC. So yes, I would make that bet. Obviously you can never be 100% certain about anything, but I'll put it this way: if she runs, she has about as much of a chance of losing the nomination as James Lankford does of losing re-election.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2014, 09:44:29 PM »

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It's still too early to know what will happen.

Yes, Hillary led by around 20 points at this time in 2006. Now she leads by 40-50 points.

Your point?

My point is that it's nothing like 2008.

No election is the same.  But would you bet your house on Hilary winning the nomination?  I bet you wouldn't.

As for you KCDem, having seen your predictions, I would say that describes you pretty accurately.

That depends. Does the risk only kick in once she declares? Because there's still a small chance she doesn't run.

Oh, the chance she doesn't run is much bigger than you would admit.

Based on what?
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IceSpear
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2014, 03:19:39 PM »

Any potential challenger to Hillary probably ends up more Bill Bradley than Barack Obama.

Pretty much, provided she faces a single opponent.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2014, 03:23:07 PM »

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It's still too early to know what will happen.

Yes, Hillary led by around 20 points at this time in 2006. Now she leads by 40-50 points.

Your point?

My point is that it's nothing like 2008.

No election is the same.  But would you bet your house on Hilary winning the nomination?  I bet you wouldn't.

As for you KCDem, having seen your predictions, I would say that describes you pretty accurately.

That depends. Does the risk only kick in once she declares? Because there's still a small chance she doesn't run.

Oh, the chance she doesn't run is much bigger than you would admit.

Based on what?

Too many speeches. Earning 200-300 thousand per speech.
Why would she trade that easy money for an uncertain presidential run?

And she's rusty. She has a lot of mileage. She is old and tired. She is gaffe prone and not disciplined.
I mean, she can run, but she would most likely implode along the way. She knows this and that's why I think she'll just decline to run.


I really hope so. It will be much easier to get someone vaguely reasonable in without Hillary. Sure, Cuomo or Warner or whoever might have to be taken down, but they won't have the high polling because of name recognition nor the gender card.

Is this result because of name recognition or the gender card?

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