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IceSpear
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« on: November 21, 2014, 04:30:16 PM »

Jeb may be the most formidable just because everyone besides him starts in a deep hole in a must win state for the GOP (FL).

Still, his political acumen is vastly overrated. If Hillary's book tour showed that she was "rusty", then Jeb's screw ups while campaigning for Tillis in NC shows that he's corroded.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2014, 04:32:19 PM »

No, it would not. It would doom Republican candidates for congress and state legislatures across the country though, as the Republican base would not turn out for a pro-common core, pro-amnesty, pro-gay marriage ticket.

Eh...I think they'd still turn out. Republicans always do. They turned out in massive numbers to vote for the architect of Obamacare, after all.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2014, 09:59:17 PM »

This is, actually, not a good sign at all.

One of the less likable aspects of the Clintons - and one respect in which they have been clearly different from Obama - is their tendency to surround themselves with these Dick Morris/Mark Penn-type advisers who are convinced that the Democratic Party is in a naturally losing position, based on some vague analysis of swing states they pulled out of nowhere, and the only way out is a basically content-free campaign focused on some magical slice of centrist swing voters. This story suggests that some of these people are still around in positions of influence.

A few days ago the entire media and many Atlas posters were saying Hillary's team was crazy for thinking they could put IN, MO, AZ, etc. in play, so it seems like she can't win no matter what she does.

"Wow, this DLC acolyte Hillary is ALREADY triangulating and running scared? We can't deal with someone who is always on a defensive posture and trying to appeal to mythical swing voters rather than turn out the base. Where did she get this horrible advice, Dick Morris? Elizabeth Warren for president! She'll be able to take our message onto traditionally Republican turf!"

"Wow, this arrogant narcissist seriously thinks she can win states like Arizona and Missouri?! Such hubris! Everyone knows that Obama's performance is the absolute ceiling for any Democrat ever. While Hillary is chasing fools gold, the crucial states will slip between her fingers and we'll lose the election! Elizabeth Warren for president! At least she'll keep her eyes on the ball."
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IceSpear
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Posts: 31,840
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E: -6.19, S: -6.43

« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2014, 10:12:57 PM »

This is, actually, not a good sign at all.

One of the less likable aspects of the Clintons - and one respect in which they have been clearly different from Obama - is their tendency to surround themselves with these Dick Morris/Mark Penn-type advisers who are convinced that the Democratic Party is in a naturally losing position, based on some vague analysis of swing states they pulled out of nowhere, and the only way out is a basically content-free campaign focused on some magical slice of centrist swing voters. This story suggests that some of these people are still around in positions of influence.

A few days ago the entire media and many Atlas posters were saying Hillary's team was crazy for thinking they could put IN, MO, AZ, etc. in play, so it seems like she can't win no matter what she does.

"Wow, this DLC acolyte Hillary is ALREADY triangulating and running scared? We can't deal with someone who is always on a defensive posture and trying to appeal to mythical swing voters rather than turn out the base. Where did she get this horrible advice, Dick Morris? Elizabeth Warren for president! She'll be able to take our message onto traditionally Republican turf!"

"Wow, this arrogant narcissist seriously thinks she can win states like Arizona and Missouri?! Such hubris! Everyone knows that Obama's performance is the absolute ceiling for any Democrat ever. While Hillary is chasing fools gold, the crucial states will slip between her fingers and we'll lose the election! Elizabeth Warren for president! At least she'll keep her eyes on the ball."

Yes, now one poster = the entire Atlas forum and the media combined.

Your persecution complex over Hillary is ridiculous.

It was obviously hyperbole, but the fact remains that many people work backwards from the universal truth of "Hillary is always wrong".
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