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IceSpear
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« on: April 21, 2014, 02:17:09 PM »

If Clinton doesn't run, Warren would be stupid not to. But Clinton is going to run so of course Warren will not.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2014, 12:10:03 PM »

Warren won't run because she knows liberals don't vote for liberals. The establishment would never let a true liberal be the nominee.

Definitely. Which is why the last Democratic nominees were right-wing blue dogs John Kerry and Barack Obama.
Well to be fair, Kerry '04 wasn't Bush, and Obama was campaigning at Mr. Change. If Hillary gets the nomination in 2016 I can't think of any excuse for her supports who still claim to be liberals.

Because despite being a centrist, Hillary will advance liberalism more than electing a Republican would.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2014, 08:35:53 PM »

Warren won't run because she knows liberals don't vote for liberals. The establishment would never let a true liberal be the nominee.

Definitely. Which is why the last Democratic nominees were right-wing blue dogs John Kerry and Barack Obama.
Well to be fair, Kerry '04 wasn't Bush, and Obama was campaigning at Mr. Change. If Hillary gets the nomination in 2016 I can't think of any excuse for her supports who still claim to be liberals.

Because despite being a centrist, Hillary will advance liberalism more than electing a Republican would.
Ted Cruz is more liberal than Hilary

Please elaborate. This should be good.
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IceSpear
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E: -6.19, S: -6.43

« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2014, 10:57:46 PM »

Warren won't run because she knows liberals don't vote for liberals. The establishment would never let a true liberal be the nominee.

Definitely. Which is why the last Democratic nominees were right-wing blue dogs John Kerry and Barack Obama.
Well to be fair, Kerry '04 wasn't Bush, and Obama was campaigning at Mr. Change. If Hillary gets the nomination in 2016 I can't think of any excuse for her supports who still claim to be liberals.

Because despite being a centrist, Hillary will advance liberalism more than electing a Republican would.
Ted Cruz is more liberal than Hilary

Please elaborate. This should be good.
Ted Cruz doesn't like NDAA. Clinton likes it. Thus Cruz is more liberal.

So in other words, you're saying Ted Cruz and Tom Coburn are more liberal than Elizabeth Warren and Tammy Baldwin. lol
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IceSpear
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E: -6.19, S: -6.43

« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2014, 12:56:29 AM »

Warren won't run because she knows liberals don't vote for liberals. The establishment would never let a true liberal be the nominee.

Definitely. Which is why the last Democratic nominees were right-wing blue dogs John Kerry and Barack Obama.
Well to be fair, Kerry '04 wasn't Bush, and Obama was campaigning at Mr. Change. If Hillary gets the nomination in 2016 I can't think of any excuse for her supports who still claim to be liberals.

Because despite being a centrist, Hillary will advance liberalism more than electing a Republican would.
Ted Cruz is more liberal than Hilary

Please elaborate. This should be good.
Ted Cruz doesn't like NDAA. Clinton likes it. Thus Cruz is more liberal.

So in other words, you're saying Ted Cruz and Tom Coburn are more liberal than Elizabeth Warren and Tammy Baldwin. lol
No because Warren is more liberal on issues than Cruz. Cruz, however, is more liberal on issues than Clinton.

You used solely the NDAA vote as "evidence" that Cruz was more liberal than Clinton. By that same single issue metric, Cruz and Coburn and more liberal than Warren and Baldwin.

Stop trolling.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2014, 01:11:13 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2014
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