Cameron Parish, LA is a disgusting place.

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cinyc,

Just pre-empting a tiff by pointing out that:

1. The Obama supporters arguing cogently here have basically stated that there wasn't sufficient issues difference 2000->2004, nor cultural difference, to account for a uniform swing in the opposite direction.

2. The swinging of those black counties had much more to do with higher black turnout because of an excited voting base than racism, which is the implication of #1

That puts the point of whether an affirmative racial vote is superior to a negative racial vote or not.

I think we've gotten into better nuance than that in this thread already though.

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Since that's basically the same as saying this board has more Democrats than Republican, which it obviously does, why would you get shouted down?  Except by the people you're criticizing, but obviously you object to what they're doing, so...no real surprise there.

I don't think anyone's arguing that "the voters shouldn't get to decide" either (), but just that the sudden realization of the awesomeness of the Republican Party between 2004 and 2008 seems less likely than racial/cultural/tribalist voting.  I think you have to intentionally strain to take it the way you're taking it.

not sure that makes it a 'disgusting place' though.

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I doubt he literally meant that, but I had him on ignore without noticing.  Either way, that's one person in a thread of people.  I had thought (can't remember now since your post is gone) that you used a plural?

Well, whatever, comment withdrawn if not.

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Ah, my apologies then!