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Alcon
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« on: June 17, 2008, 02:35:06 PM »

CARL,

PPP is not an accurate polling firm based on what?

PPP didn't poll in the 2004 Presidential.  In the 2008 Primary, they stumbled toward the end (especially with Pennsylvania) but they still beat Strategic Vision, who was very good in 2004.  I don't think we should reject pollsters based on primary results.  I think PPP is untested and results like this make me skeptical, but it is too early to say that this is "not a very accurate polling firm."
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Alcon
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2008, 05:36:48 PM »

CARL,

SUSA did excellently for this primary.  Similarly, Rasmussen blew 2000.  Good pollsters can have bad years, and good pollsters have bad polls in good years.  I think this is a bad poll.  PPP does not have enough of a record with General Election polling to give them "bad pollster"status quite yet.  As hilarious as their Pennsylvania primary poll was, we can see from SurveyUSA the dangers of projecting that to the General, as you yourself said.  Smiley

Can you provide a link to these California polls?  I think you're confusing PPP with PPI, but I may be wrong.  I don't remember any PPP polls before this year, and I don't know what they'd have been polling in California in 2007 -- initiatives?
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Alcon
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2008, 05:47:45 PM »


Not at all...

This poll has some obvious apparent flaws, but that isn't one of them
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