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Alcon
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« on: September 28, 2009, 05:51:04 PM »

These laws may look stupid on paper, but they do seem to cut local meth production impressively.
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Alcon
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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2009, 06:43:01 PM »

These laws may look stupid on paper, but they do seem to cut local meth production impressively.

Doesn't matter. People ought to be allowed to produce and consume meth at their own discretion.

Including in ways that may blow up innocents, destroy property or risk the results of meth psychosis?
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Alcon
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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2009, 06:49:48 PM »

These laws may look stupid on paper, but they do seem to cut local meth production impressively.

Doesn't matter. People ought to be allowed to produce and consume meth at their own discretion.

Including in ways that may blow up innocents, destroy property or risk the results of meth psychosis?

Yes.

I tend to value personal autonomy in the form of not being blown up, and support enacting that into law to some degree, so I'm going to have to not concur.  If you have any philosophical argument here, I'd be interested in hearing it.  If you're going to be all dumb and just stop ignoring someone once they challenge you on formal grounds, I'm going to have to ask that you be dumb in a way that doesn't involve quoting my posts.
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Alcon
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2009, 10:34:13 PM »

Oh, yeah, in response to everyone, what Snowguy said.  This is obviously ridiculous and I know she wasn't trying to make meth.  But laws in this spirit sound ridiculous on paper, but are pretty effective.  That's all I meant to editorialize about.  I come from the former meth capitol of the U.S. (as far as decently large counties go)...and the rule did wonders for my community.

As for making meth cheap and legal fixing all the safety problems involved...look, I'm sympathetic to this sort of treatment of drugs.  The end result should not be prohibiting stuff because it is "bad," it should be doing whatever reduces the societal damage with the minimal effect on those exercising informed consent for recreational purposes.  It becomes more subjective when we talk about people making mistakes and then getting in too deep.

Do I know the exact correct ratio, or the exact correct fix?  No.  But meth is scary sh**t, and it makes me more circumspect about the whole thing than just "stop wasting our money and let people go at it."

Edit: BRTD, have you actually read much about this type of law?  I'll grant that my information has been disseminated through law enforcement some, but by large there seems a lot of agreement in my community that the vastly reduced number of meth labs is due to the law.
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Alcon
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2009, 10:58:54 PM »

How is the Washington law? Is it "If you buy an amount over a certain limit you get arrested and we won't notify you if you're close to that limit or put up signs with sufficient warning?"

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=246-889&full=true#246-889-070
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