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Redefeatbush04
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« on: March 27, 2005, 05:35:40 PM »
« edited: March 27, 2005, 06:18:52 PM by Redefeatbush04 »




The colors are based on which party they voted for more in the last 20 elections, democrat or republican

The shade is based on which party they voted for in 2004

If it is tied 10-10 2004 is not included
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2005, 10:12:28 PM »
« Edited: March 27, 2005, 10:16:47 PM by Red NJ Avatar »

Interesting map. It's a microcosm of what is happening in the nation today- the Democrats are losing their populist base and gaining elitist Republicans.

an extreme example of the democrats' loss of their populist base is west virginia:



Anyone know why this is happening? Are the democrats shifting from a populist-leaning party to a libertarian-leaning party?

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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2005, 10:49:52 AM »

Up until recently I don't think it can be doubted that the national Democrats were heading in a more suburban-libertarian direction, and largely for the reasons Frodo mentioned.
Recent noises from various high profile national Democrats (and the facts that Reid was able to fix himself the Minority Leader spot without too much trouble and that they got Casey to run for Senate) suggests that they've finally realised that what they have been doing is electoral suicide.
I think in the next few years we're likely to see more attention on small town voters from the national Dems.

Hopefully.....for the democratic parties sake. Our nation, whether you like it or not, is a populist nation (yes i know you DO like it Al Cheesy). If we voted purely on economics the democratic party would win - every time. However people DON'T vote on economics. They vote on social wedge issues such as gay marriage and abortion. Perhaps this is because they are easier to understand for the average american. When the democratic party stopped representing working class americans and started representing elitist new englanders they lost their edge. The party is a mess right now. We are trying to travel in too many directions at once. The republican party is unified and has a message. We need a message, and fast.
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2005, 01:17:34 PM »
« Edited: March 29, 2005, 01:29:27 PM by Red NJ Avatar »

Interesting map. It's a microcosm of what is happening in the nation today- the Democrats are losing their populist base and gaining elitist Republicans.

Vermont & Connecticut are examples of the democrats gaining what you may call "elitist republicans"


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Redefeatbush04
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2005, 10:47:37 PM »

Those are great maps. May I ask where you got them? Or did you make them yourself?

I made them Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2005, 10:53:44 PM »

Those are great maps. May I ask where you got them? Or did you make them yourself?

I made them Cheesy

I'm impressed. Great work Smiley.

(blushes) thanks bob!!! Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2005, 11:34:14 AM »

S. Jersey is a more populist area and used to be as democratic as the area near NYC but is trending Republican, however, libertarian, upper class areas in northern NJ, like where I live, are trending Democratic.

That is a pretty good summary of NJ politics. North Jersey outside of the cities is actually pretty heavily republican, however most of the population does live in these cities and therefore north jersey votes democratic. The suburbs are evenly divided with the wealthier suburbs favoring the republicans and the poorer suburbs favoring the democrats. Princeton, due to the university, is an exception: a wealthy suburb which is solidly democratic.  I would make a map for NJ and Pennsylvania but I don't have old enough statistics on those two states.
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