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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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« on: March 19, 2009, 11:50:50 AM »

If someone is working in the US, they are paying Social Security taxes, so I don't see any non-xenophobic reason to deny them the payout on that. Besides, illegal immigrants are not eligible to receive Social Security in the US anyway. All that's possible is that ONCE THEY BECOME LEGAL they can receive payouts on what they paid in while illegal. That just seems like common sense.

As for driver's licenses, do you really want people driving WITHOUT a license? It's not like that wastes the state's resources anyway unless they're setting up specific centers just to give licenses to illegal immigrants which I doubt happens. Really, the state makes money off drivers licenses to illegal immigrants. Maybe jack up the price of a license for them if you're that concerned, but denying it outright is just stupid.

For another example of xenophia, how about the NRSC attacking Stephen Laffey because as mayor he allowed for the Matricula ID Card, a legitimate form of ID issued by the Mexican government to be used as legal ID? I doubt anyone is freaking out about Canadian drivers' licenses being considered valid legal ID.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
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Posts: 113,437
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2009, 12:33:42 PM »

Why is preventing law breakers from social services xenophobia? Al, can I come to England as a visitor and be a beneficiary of your NHS? And if not, why are you being such a xenophobe?

If you're a resident, you are entitled to care regardless of nationality.


This was a response to StatesRights' question about access to the NHS in Britain.

Sorry for the confusion.

But excluding States wouldn't be xenophobic and no one would call it that anyway. Bring up an American that opposes drivers licenses, Social Security, etc. for those that enter this country illegally and you're xenophobic. It's disgusting.

Illegals get social security? I wonder how they got their number........

Well, not Social Security but others advocate for them, claiming they have a "right" to other benefits and it's not xenophobic for me to oppose that.

What people advocate for Social Security is that ONCE THEY BECOME LEGAL IMMIGRANTS that they can collect on benefits that they paid in when they were illegal.
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