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BRTD
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« on: May 22, 2008, 01:16:23 AM »

No one is going to vote for McCain only because of a dispute over DNC rules that half the voters probably don't even understand anyway.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,689
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2008, 11:17:09 PM »


Nobody cares, here. Obama supporter, Hillary supporters, whoever, nobody gives a Sh!t.
It's all the economy, all the time here. If Obama successfully ties McCain to Bush with the economy then Michigan will go for him. His anti-NAFTA stance should help him here, too.


No, these kind of things can leave scars.  I think you can get a good idea how much people care about a slight by a candidate from KY and WV.  It wasn't the sole cause of the losses there, but it made it worse.

FL is probably gone, but MI is likely a toss-up. Agreed

I can see that I cannot convince you, even though I live in the state and I'm forced to talk about it everyday. The true sense, even if you don't want to believe it, is that this won't have an effect on the outcome of the election.

You are not necessarily one of the people that this will likely affect, but there are those people,  party activists.  It also has that effect on voters that might regard Obama as being elitist.  There are not normally GOP voters and in other election tend to vote Democratic.

How many party activists are there? Wont they back Obama anyway in the fall? Plus at least half the delegation will be seated and nobody will care. Seriously there are many better reasons why Obama may lose MI. This is not one of them. And what exactly does this have to do with elitism or were you making a different point altogether.

You don't understand.  The party activists are the "ground troops" that get people out to vote.  If they don't work, the candidate loses votes.

"Elitism," and please note that I'm using quotes, affects a different group of voters.

And party activists are also the folks who show up to vote in caucuses. So it's obvious most favor Obama.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
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Posts: 113,689
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2008, 11:58:22 AM »

He can also back this up by polls, for which Obama doesn't do any worse and in one showed that he actually had a higher favorability rating than Hillary. Clearly Michiganders are thus voting on issues other than DNC rules disputes. What a shocker!
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