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« on: November 30, 2007, 12:42:53 AM »

Jack Thompson has flat out said that Manhunt 2 should be flat out banned in the US like the UK and Ireland. I'm also surprised to find people supporting this on the internets, which usually tends toward extreme libertarianism on these type of issues: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070620082000AAoVUHl

But my answer of course is no, and Jack Thompson is of course a complete waste of life.
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2007, 12:56:14 AM »

Here's something else to think about:

I haven't played Manhunt 2, but I have played the original, and while it wasn't very good (why I haven't played Manhunt 2), it never rewarded you for killing innocent people. All the people you killed, even if it in graphic and gruesome ways, were violent criminals trying to kill you too.

I do however own several games (all from the same series), where you ARE sometimes rewarded for killing innocent people...and they are all rated T.
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2007, 08:01:30 PM »
« Edited: November 30, 2007, 08:03:10 PM by LG FUAD »

I know a girl (a scene girl, but still) who likes video games and loved the original Manhunt, so it's clearly not a male thing. She's also a big fan of movies like Last House on the Left and The Hills Have Eyes despite being a straightedge jmfcst-esque Christian (
Actually I shouldn't say jmfcst-esque, she's not a homophobic bigot with that temple fetish. But she does buy into that Rapture/End Times stuff and believes it's coming soon.) Anyway, strange types you meet.
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2007, 08:14:26 PM »

And I know quite a couple of people like quite the girl really. (Well except Straightedge and Jmfcst-esque. I have never heard of anyone who was actually straightedge; it is mainly used as the butt of jokes.)

You know scene girls?

Also that's kind of like saying "I know lots of people like opebo except they aren't sex tourists." The being straightedge and jmfcst-esque is what makes her odd.
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2007, 08:30:06 PM »

And I know quite a couple of people like quite the girl really. (Well except Straightedge and Jmfcst-esque. I have never heard of anyone who was actually straightedge; it is mainly used as the butt of jokes.)

You know scene girls?

Define "scene". No matter how much times you have used it, I still don't know what it is.

I do know (vaguely mostly) many bohemian types though.

No. Those aren't scene kids at all.

Scene kids are people who collect vinyl (of only modern day music in the further listed categories), listen primarily to hardcore, punk and indie rock and all related genres, frequently go to shows (NOT concerts, shows. Concerts are big.), and used MySpace about two years before it got huge. That Dude Fest I went to over the summer was basically a huge scene kid meet up.

Actually that definition is kind of dumb. Could be easily defined simply only as people who listen to "scene" music, which is a rather broad category still (hell, let's just define it as "everything I listen to"). Actually anyone who is a collector of modern day vinyl and isn't a raver kid would classify to get most basic.

They are also virtually nonexistant in Ireland. I can't think of any Irish bands of the type.

It was kind of like the personality you were described. Opebo could still be opebo without being a sex tourist; he wouldn't do the same things but would still be the same person with the same personality.

Of course I might be imagining this girl completely wrong. It is the Internets after all.

Yes, it seems like you are.

And do straightedge people even exist in Ireland? That sounds like an oxymoron.
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2007, 09:02:25 PM »

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Ah now. I can't say I know anyone that description. Though apparently vinyl is coming back to fashion again.. (though probably unrelated.)

Somewhat related.

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I can't think of anything either. Though the term "indie rock" is very broad.

In this context, it's like this: http://www.purevolume.com/appleseedcast

Until about four months ago I would have said no. But apparently they do; though this is something I have only HEARD about. It is mainly related to certain marginal Dublin scenes (probably not in the "scene" sense.)

Though yes an Irish straightedge person is a very strange thing indeed..

Wow, that sounds horrible. Terribly tragic.
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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2007, 02:55:44 PM »

There's no law enforcing the ESRB policy. Any such laws attempting to have been ruled out by the courts. Even I was under 17 I also had no problems buying M-rated games ever, things must've changed a lot.

As far as banning all violent video games, will never happen, that'd never last 5 minutes in court.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2007, 03:07:32 PM »

Blockbuster didn't back in my time thankfully.

I don't see theaters enforce this policy either. Thanksgiving break I saw a sign at the theater that said carding would be done for all R-rated movies, but my brother who's just 17 and thus theoretically COULD be underage wasn't carded to go to Hitman with me (neither was I, but that's not unexpected.) My brother also claims he WAS carded to go to Snakes on a Plane, and he was 16 then, but they let him in anyway. I've also been getting into R-rated movies since I was 15 (without being carded)

That's the point though, enforcement is just a policy, not the law. Any law mandating it never lasts.
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