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« on: April 24, 2024, 12:17:25 AM »
« edited: April 24, 2024, 12:22:36 AM by I spent the winter writing songs about getting better »

1-Trump hasn't been in office for three years now, and Biden is probably the worst possible President for this type of activism, he neither urges it on and promotes it but also doesn't inspire a backlash fueling it like Trump did either.

2-Most people seem to agree that the state of feminist activism 2015-2020 was a complete mess and should probably be forgotten. I actually saw a meme a couple months ago on a local riot grrl band's Facebook page they crossposted from some "Leftbook" community that was clearly aimed at mocking how frustrating leftist activism was from 2015-2021 in the dates, and it included pretty much all the stuff that made people shake their heads and not take it seriously, including by the way a certain word that starts with "L" and ends with "x". I followed the link to the original community...and all the comments were supportive of the spirit of the meme. Basically even the original target audience for that stuff has mostly realized how silly and counterproductive it is and moved on. This doesn't mean of an abandoning of feminism, but moving back to a more third-wave style which is less in your face and recognizable and seemingly pretty normal now.

3-Elon Musk scared a lot of the influencers pushing all that stuff on Twitter and there hasn't been a replacement for them to congregate at. (TikTok perhaps has to some extent but no one over 30 pays attention to it.) Mind you this was going to happen anyway and Musk just expedited the process, Twitter was already in a slow decline and things like the online shunning of Lindsay Ellis on it was already causing a serious backlash from more mainstream feminists to this sort of thing.

I have no doubt we'll see a revival in the coming years, especially in a post-Roe world, but it'll more resemble the sort of thing we saw during the Obama years than the last couple years. The Everyday Feminism/Teen Vogue "bodies and spaces" era is being left in the rearview.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2024, 09:30:07 AM »

1-Trump hasn't been in office for three years now, and Biden is probably the worst possible President for this type of activism, he neither urges it on and promotes it but also doesn't inspire a backlash fueling it like Trump did either.
Would you that Obama was different than Biden in that regard?

I have no doubt we'll see a revival in the coming years, especially in a post-Roe world, but it'll more resemble the sort of thing we saw during the Obama years than the last couple years. The Everyday Feminism/Teen Vogue "bodies and spaces" era is being left in the rearview.
Which Obama years? First term? 2014? 2015? 2016?
Generally yes that was true of Obama. Worth noting: why did you never hear of him after his election called the first "person of color President" or first "BIPOC President"?

Referring mostly to his first term here. Yes that stuff did start to materialize near the end of his presidency. But without Trump it would have faded a lot quicker.
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