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« on: September 01, 2020, 11:45:25 AM »

We all know Trump sucks Chris, no reason to be all hyperbolic. This guy literally only cares about making guns illegal and keeping taxes as high as possible for the middle class while simultaneously opposing universal healthcare. A big war hawk too iirc. The worst kind of corporate Democrat, Dems like that are the reason I'll never have a red avi.

You sure the real reason isn’t that you are a Trump concern troll who is constantly talking about how he is destined to win?

I’d fact check you on your ridiculous claims about middle class taxes and healthcare, but it would be pointless and since you are obviously not a good faith poster, wouldn’t be worth my time.

Don't you post on r/neoliberal? 😂

I hate Trump but I'm not living in 1992 like you.

Your purported matrix scores make it seem like you would fit right in there. Hell, they are more “neoliberal” than mine are. I post there, yes, but am to the left of the average user. Who by the way is significantly to the left of the textbook “neoliberal” anyway. The sub was started to use the name semi-ironically as a reaction to having it hurled at us (who used to just be considered regular old liberals) from socialists online. Most of us are just mainstream Dems, more or less. But it’s a big tent sub. FDR and Reagan represent the extreme ends of left and right that make up the sub, more or less, which is good because that’s about where the Overton window should be.

That said, I’ll own the charge of living in 1992. Was a great year. 90s were a great decade. W f—ked up everything, Obama was blocked in most of his attempts to fix it by Congressional Republicans, and Trump has of course made everything infinitely worse. I’m not saying the 90s were perfect in every way, especially not by today’s standards, but returning to that level of stability and less polarization would be a start, at least.

Anyway, my main beef with you is that you continue to insist Trump is destined to win despite any and all logical arguments and evidence to the contrary. If you really hate Trump, I find it hard to believe you would so relentlessly make these uphill arguments that are a major stretch at best. Even if you’re the defeatist kind of liberal/leftist, I’d expect you to just say your gut still thinks Trump will win but you hope you’re wrong. But that’s not what you do. You find every little possible cherry to pick to defy the mass of evidence to the contrary, then when called out just continually move the goalposts. That’s what sets off the concern troll flag for me.

Trump is down but far from out. Obviously I hope I'm wrong but no reason to put that in every post. The mass of evidence leans towards Biden but many posters are also far too confident in the ability of the average American to not fall for demagoguery. I'm just trying to add some balance and prevent this forum from becoming too one-sided, as I've stated before nationwide polarization has even spilled all the way down to talk elections.

I'm an alt center leftist. I support free healthcare, heavily funded public education, troop withdrawals from everywhere and a focus on supporting small businesses by breaking up monopolies. I'm also pro UBI, pro 2A and very much a centrist on immigration. I also believe in a healthy balance of globalism and nationalism. My p.m. scores probably are the same as a lot of neolibs but my views, approach and issues of importance are usually quite different.

-You claimed that Kanye West would pull 10-15% of the youth vote and at least 5 points from Biden (didn't happen.)
-You claimed that Trump's executive orders would give him a 5 poimt minimum approval rating boost (didn't happen.)
-You claimed Trump would get a large boost from his announcement of using plasma to treat Covid as a "major breakthrough" though it's been done for months. (didn't happen.)
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