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Question: Is the "Kanye West will definitely siphon off lots of black votes" talking point racist?
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« on: July 06, 2020, 01:31:42 AM »

"LOL blacks are such sheep many will always vote for any black candidate in a race and it doesn't matter if that candidate is a barely coherent clown who offers them nothing in his campaign and was kissing Trump's ass up until a few months ago. They'll vote for any black candidate!"

That's basically how I read it.
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2020, 11:34:37 PM »

Eh, do we think the "Kamala Harris/Susan Rice/Keisha Lance Bottoms" will deliver black turnout are also racist takes?  If not, then this probably shouldn't be a "racist" take.

It is, however, very lazy and likely wrong.

Both are stupid and wrong. Especially Harris who was rejected by black voters. (She's honestly close to the least bad one remaining on the shortlist at this point though, bleh.)
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2020, 06:03:30 PM »

Absolutely not. Identity voting is very real. It's a big reason why Trump appeals to the WWC as well (not that Trump is WWC himself, but he behaves like one, which is what is important). But it is also a main reason why more "cerebral" candidates like Buttigieg or Warren overwhelmingly appeals to the highly educated. People do like to vote for people that they can identify with. With Kanye it is not just his skin colour, but certainly attachment to hip-hop culture and his larger than life celebrity personality.

BTW, I am NOT saying that black people will vote for Kanye in droves, but it is possible that he siphons a non-insignificant part of the black vote away from Biden.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,550
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2020, 10:39:51 PM »

Absolutely not. Identity voting is very real. It's a big reason why Trump appeals to the WWC as well (not that Trump is WWC himself, but he behaves like one, which is what is important). But it is also a main reason why more "cerebral" candidates like Buttigieg or Warren overwhelmingly appeals to the highly educated. People do like to vote for people that they can identify with. With Kanye it is not just his skin colour, but certainly attachment to hip-hop culture and his larger than life celebrity personality.

BTW, I am NOT saying that black people will vote for Kanye in droves, but it is possible that he siphons a non-insignificant part of the black vote away from Biden.
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How does Libertarian pick up a point when more candidates are factored in?
Either some sort of percentage rounding fluke or people thinking "I don't want to vote for any of these candidates....oh sh!t Kanye West really is the only alternative....I guess Jorgensen."
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,550
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2021, 12:19:26 PM »

Yes, yes it was.
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