Why phony "centrism" is bad for the Democratic party

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

ZZZZZZZzzzzzzz..... what a bore, liberalism is taking a rather extended nap in our country for a looong time, time to see that and either support pretty faced "moderates" or stay on your kook fringe and achieve nothing for a long time

LOL

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

ZZZZZZZzzzzzzz..... what a bore, liberalism is taking a rather extended nap in our country for a looong time, time to see that and either support pretty faced "moderates" or stay on your kook fringe and achieve nothing for a long time

LOL

Uh, if anything, he is correct. Moderates helped take the House and the Senate for the Dems last year.

Yeah, Sherrod Brown and Jon Tester are so moderate. Hell, that's why almost every Democrat elected ran as supportive of the war and Bush's policies.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

ZZZZZZZzzzzzzz..... what a bore, liberalism is taking a rather extended nap in our country for a looong time, time to see that and either support pretty faced "moderates" or stay on your kook fringe and achieve nothing for a long time

LOL

Uh, if anything, he is correct. Moderates helped take the House and the Senate for the Dems last year.

Yeah, Sherrod Brown and Jon Tester are so moderate. Hell, that's why almost every Democrat elected ran as supportive of the war and Bush's policies.

Yeah but Senator Webb is rather moderate and him being a moderate mattered. That's why you have the Senate. Take a look at the House, too.

By the way, running against the war doesn't necessarily make one a liberal.

Webb may have been seen as a moderate at the time, but he sure as hell hasn't acted or voted like a moderate since taking office.

What about my Rep Tim Walz who recently said in a speech that Bush is too preoccupied with fighting terrorism? Of course that's not what he literally meant, it's just the media taking his remarks out of context and distorting it, but it's certainly not the type of thing you'd expect a "moderate" to say.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Walz also campaigned as a liberal. So did Patrick Murphy and basically every seat that we picked up in the Northeast.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

OK, here's every House pickup:

AZ-5: Mitchell - moderate
AZ-8: Giffords - liberal
CA-11: McNerney - liberal
CO-7: Perlmutter - liberal
CT-2: Courtney - liberal
CT-5: Chris Murphy - liberal
FL-16: Mahoney - moderate
FL-22: Klein - liberal
IN-2: Donnelly - moderate
IN-8: Ellsworth - moderate
IN-9: Hill - moderate
IA-1: Braley - liberal
IA-2: Loebsack - liberal
KS-2: Boyda - liberal
KY-3: Yarmuth - liberal
MN-1: Walz - liberal
NH-1: Shea-Porter - liberal
NH-2: Hodes - liberal
NY-19: Hall - liberal
NY-20: Gillibrand - liberal
NY-24: Arcuri - moderate
NC-11: Schuler - moderate
OH-18: Space - liberal
PA-4: Altmire - moderate (although I noticed in his ads it said "Melissa Hart votes with George Bush and Rick Santorum 98% of the time)
PA-7: Sestak - liberal
PA-8: Pat Murphy - liberal (you said so yourself Phil you couldn't think of anything he was conservative on)
PA-10: Carney - moderate
TX-22: Lampson - moderate
TX-23: Rodriguez - liberal
WI-8: Kagen - liberal

That's 20 liberals, which by itself was enough to flip the House.

And in the Senate, the only really moderate Democrat elected was McCaskill (Casey sure as hell isn't moderate on economic issues)

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

What you say is partially true. It's true that outside of a handful of districts, the candidates didn't say "vote for me because I'm a liberal". However campaigning against the war IS a left wing issue and most of the issues they covered (even the moderate ones) were.

However if we can win a true liberal majority regardless of how campaigning is done, and elect Nancy Pelosi as Speaker, it's safe to say that "liberalism is taking a rather extended nap in our country for a looong time" is hardly true.