Kamala Harris supporters schaudenfreude thread

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https://twitter.com/CarmenTS/status/1201931036910862336?s=19

https://twitter.com/MrPruneJuice/status/1201931016182603778?s=19

https://twitter.com/gofetchgretch/status/1201931007156293634?s=19

https://twitter.com/RosemaryMcL/status/1201930978761039873?s=19

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wow african americans are very racist, at least this twitter bunch

Have you seen MAGA Twitter? That is racist, but of course no one white can ever be racist by Trump standard, only economically anxious.

Who said exactly this?

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https://twitter.com/osuphantom/status/1201939859616784385?s=19

https://twitter.com/LaughSoIDontCry/status/1201940425730351107?s=19

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wow african americans are very racist, at least this twitter bunch

Have you seen MAGA Twitter? That is racist, but of course no one white can ever be racist by Trump standard, only economically anxious.

Who said exactly this?

Conservatives and "progressives" after the 2016 election. The whole idea of economic anxiety has been used as a cover for racism.

Try again. I've also never heard him say the phrase "economic anxiety".

In fact I'm pretty sure I have never seen that phrase unironically used outside of a two year old NY Times thinkpiece.

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https://twitter.com/DavidDTSS/status/1201931741734289409?s=19

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

wow african americans are very racist, at least this twitter bunch

Have you seen MAGA Twitter? That is racist, but of course no one white can ever be racist by Trump standard, only economically anxious.

Who said exactly this?

Conservatives and "progressives" after the 2016 election. The whole idea of economic anxiety has been used as a cover for racism.

Try again. I've also never heard him say the phrase "economic anxiety".

In fact I'm pretty sure I have never seen that phrase unironically used outside of a two year old NY Times thinkpiece.

I never once mentioned Sanders' name, you brought him up. I was talking about progressives online. He's not going to win anyway so it's pretty irrelevant to discuss anything he has said or did not say.

So do you have any specific examples or quotes beyond this vague "progressives"?

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This thread is more of an embarrassment, if anything.

I only made it because KHive has to be the most deranged cult I've ever seen for any Democratic candidate and their labeling of any criticism of her as racist/sexist was infuriating as all hell.

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This thread is more of an embarrassment, if anything.

I only made it because KHive has to be the most deranged cult I've ever seen for any Democratic candidate and their labeling of any criticism of her as racist/sexist was infuriating as all hell.

If you think Kamala had a annoying fan base then let me introduce you to the Yang gang

All of the candidates have annoying supporters* but the KHive was a whole other level. At least the Yang Gang doesn't pull the race and sex card as the only things they ever argue and try to shut down debate.

*Ironically the most tolerable seems to be Biden's, although that's probably because most of them don't know how to use Twitter.

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https://twitter.com/DavidDTSS/status/1201931741734289409?s=19

Look, I hate the #KHive and am excited to see Kamala go, but they are 100% right on this one.

Bill DeBlasio, Beto O'Rourke, Seth Moulton, Tim Ryan, Jay Inslee, John Hickenlooper, Kristen Gillibrand, Joe Sestak, Eric Swalwell and Steve Bullock all say hi.

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This thread is more of an embarrassment, if anything.

I only made it because KHive has to be the most deranged cult I've ever seen for any Democratic candidate and their labeling of any criticism of her as racist/sexist was infuriating as all hell.

I didn't realize you changed your display name so I wasn't expecting it when I was smacked in the face by the obliqueness and sheer disdain for nuance in this take.

How is it untrue?

And please note, blaming racism for her defeat is actually calling black voters racist as they're the ones who overwhelmingly preferred Biden (and even Warren and Sanders.)

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This thread is more of an embarrassment, if anything.

I only made it because KHive has to be the most deranged cult I've ever seen for any Democratic candidate and their labeling of any criticism of her as racist/sexist was infuriating as all hell.

I didn't realize you changed your display name so I wasn't expecting it when I was smacked in the face by the obliqueness and sheer disdain for nuance in this take.

How is it untrue?

And please note, blaming racism for her defeat is actually calling black voters racist as they're the ones who overwhelmingly preferred Biden (and even Warren and Sanders.)

Your playbook is clearly to throw out totally unsubstantiated exaggerations. Your entire operation for this whole primary has been based on strawmanning, and not even in the service of any actual argument. You can continue accusing people of reducing Kamala dropping out to "just, like, racism and stuff" all you'd like, but nobody's making that argument, so you're really just masturbating to your imagination in front of some thousand-or-so nerds on the internet.

I just quoted examples of it in the OP.

There's not really any "defeat" in an election with 30 candidates in which no one has yet voted; and I don't care if Biden is winning 100% of black poll responses, because I'll repeat for like the third time that this discussion has nothing to do with how black people have responded to polling. The implication that Harris' only possible lane was to mobilize a bunch of black voters against white people is disgusting and would be edited out of even the most outlandish work of political fiction. Likewise, the implication that it would be impossible for black people to harbor racial bias against people of Indian descent is also laughable, though I doubt that was a defining factor in this race. Or, did you forget that Kamala is half-Indian?

nah, I'm really aware. I just don't think that was a factor at all in her failure to pick up.

I'm so sorry that some Kamala staffer was a little mean to you once or something, I guess.

It's more that her supporters on Twitter (and some here, see Pittsburgh for Kamala) were f[inks]ing insufferable. And honestly no one has managed to provide a good rebuttal to the main reason I opposed her: her awful policies involving jailing parents for their kids cutting class.

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This thread is more of an embarrassment, if anything.

I only made it because KHive has to be the most deranged cult I've ever seen for any Democratic candidate and their labeling of any criticism of her as racist/sexist was infuriating as all hell.

I didn't realize you changed your display name so I wasn't expecting it when I was smacked in the face by the obliqueness and sheer disdain for nuance in this take.

How is it untrue?

And please note, blaming racism for her defeat is actually calling black voters racist as they're the ones who overwhelmingly preferred Biden (and even Warren and Sanders.)

Your playbook is clearly to throw out totally unsubstantiated exaggerations. Your entire operation for this whole primary has been based on strawmanning, and not even in the service of any actual argument. You can continue accusing people of reducing Kamala dropping out to "just, like, racism and stuff" all you'd like, but nobody's making that argument, so you're really just masturbating to your imagination in front of some thousand-or-so nerds on the internet.

I just quoted examples of it in the OP.

There's not really any "defeat" in an election with 30 candidates in which no one has yet voted; and I don't care if Biden is winning 100% of black poll responses, because I'll repeat for like the third time that this discussion has nothing to do with how black people have responded to polling. The implication that Harris' only possible lane was to mobilize a bunch of black voters against white people is disgusting and would be edited out of even the most outlandish work of political fiction. Likewise, the implication that it would be impossible for black people to harbor racial bias against people of Indian descent is also laughable, though I doubt that was a defining factor in this race. Or, did you forget that Kamala is half-Indian?

nah, I'm really aware. I just don't think that was a factor at all in her failure to pick up.

I'm so sorry that some Kamala staffer was a little mean to you once or something, I guess.

It's more that her supporters on Twitter (and some here, see Pittsburgh for Kamala) were f[inks]ing insufferable. And honestly no one has managed to provide a good rebuttal to the main reason I opposed her: her awful policies involving jailing parents for their kids cutting class.

You can oppose Kamala Harris all you'd like, but talking about how racism and sexism affect our elections and media is not "labeling any criticism as racism/sexism" and plenty of legitimate critiques of her campaign are standing just fine.

But that's not what those deranged, raging #KHive cultists were saying.

Nobody's blaming everything on one factor.

Hahahahhaha. You need to read #KHive Twitter some time.

Even the (deeply misguided) people that think if you're a black woman you need to just automatically vote for "the black woman" never really said that.

"Deeply misguided" is a pretty mild way of putting it. More like "f[inks]ing revolting" and quite racist.

People pushed narratives about Kamala Harris that were not fair play; that was in part inspired by racist and sexist urges.

Examples?

The unnecessarily early hit-campaign about the Willie Brown rumors alone show that.

I literally completely forgot about that. If me with my 86k+ posts did, how many voters do you think were aware of it?

Kamala Harris was unable to convince enough potential voters that she should be the Democratic nominee, and a large part of the reason why is that public opinion was shaped early on by a smear campaign totally unrelated to policy proposals, one designed to tarnish her credibility with young, white, self-identified antiestablishment men. This was done in the open and to claim racism or sexism are totally irrelevant non-factors is ridiculous for that reason.

That's quite a stretch since every criticism I've seen of her from "young, white, self-identified antiestablishment men" is only policy-based. Like just see any thread on her here.

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The unnecessarily early hit-campaign about the Willie Brown rumors alone show that.

I literally completely forgot about that. If me with my 86k+ posts did, how many voters do you think were aware of it?

Uh, none, because no one has voted yet. That's kind of how media cycles are driven.

So yeah, it's not particularly relevant.

Kamala Harris was unable to convince enough potential voters that she should be the Democratic nominee, and a large part of the reason why is that public opinion was shaped early on by a smear campaign totally unrelated to policy proposals, one designed to tarnish her credibility with young, white, self-identified antiestablishment men. This was done in the open and to claim racism or sexism are totally irrelevant non-factors is ridiculous for that reason.

That's quite a stretch since every criticism I've seen of her from "young, white, self-identified antiestablishment men" is only policy-based. Like just see any thread on her here.

It's rather "policy-based" of you to start a thread about a candidate you don't like so that you can just say that everything you don't like is "pulling the race card."

Wait are you including me in that category? Because I'm not "self-identified antiestablishment" and think mindless "antiestablishment" politics are the dumbest thing ever.

At least the Yang Gang doesn't pull the race and sex card as the only things they ever argue and try to shut down debate.

You're the one who started this thread, and it's basically just been people whining about "muh identity politics" (followed by seeming to, like, take it personally that I didn't just play along and use the word Berniebro like some Twitter drone and then calling the trans girl a transphobe by association)* and a couple things they don't like about her prosecutorial record. Those comments on student loan policy and healthcare barely count, they could've been copied from the preview of a Google search result on page 9.

Her prosecutorial record, healthcare and student loan policies are all the definition of policy-based criticisms. You seem to be saying they "barely count" because they're not in depth enough. What do you want, a bunch of essays about a now withdrawn candidate?

And dismissing the attacks on her prosecutorial record as "a couple things they don't like" is pretty petty. I could list "a couple things I don't like" about Trump's administration and I doubt you'd be so dismissive.

I see one tweet you've posted that reads "I'll never forgive all these fake azz protect black women, think like a black woman, vote like a black woman who when given the chance didn't support the  Black Woman." That is reprehensible, but then what?

After that, someone says that Kamala "has been pushed out of this primary by white billionaires and misogynoir hit pieces" -- which, I mean, are Bloomberg and Steyer not white billionaries?

They are people who had nothing to do with her withdrawing, especially Bloomberg who didn't even get in until she was polling about 2%. And even Steyer didn't get in until after her decline.

Were there not objectively biased hit pieces that relied on sexism?

No? At least not ones I've read. Can you cite examples?

Nobody is saying that anything in particular was the one and only cause.

Many rabid #KHive ragers are.

"yt people are giving us 4 (more) years of Trump" is an exaggeration, but it is objectively correct that her inability to solidify support from white people did not help her win the nomination, and if you believe (delusionally) that Kamala Harris was the only candidate that could beat Trump, this is not a logically unsound thing to say.

Well that's a stupid assumption as you even admit, and thus a stupid tweet.

"Kamala going out before Mayor Pete is a masterclass in white privilege" -- I don't even know where to begin with this one. Are you saying white privilege has nothing to do at all whatsoever with Pete Buttigieg being on that debate stage? Or are you just saying white privilege isn't real?

The former. If "white privilege" is why he's still in the debates and competitive, then how do you explain the long list of other white candidates who dropped out I listed earlier?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

wow african americans are very racist, at least this twitter bunch

Have you seen MAGA Twitter? That is racist, but of course no one white can ever be racist by Trump standard, only economically anxious.

Who said exactly this?

Conservatives and "progressives" after the 2016 election. The whole idea of economic anxiety has been used as a cover for racism.

Try again. I've also never heard him say the phrase "economic anxiety".

In fact I'm pretty sure I have never seen that phrase unironically used outside of a two year old NY Times thinkpiece.

I never once mentioned Sanders' name, you brought him up. I was talking about progressives online. He's not going to win anyway so it's pretty irrelevant to discuss anything he has said or did not say.

"Democratic insiders say Bernie Sanders could win the nomination, Politico reports" https://twitter.com/i/events/1210287431410278400

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Let me just state this type of deranged KHiveism is what I was targeting with this thread and here's the textbook example. Possibly the worst take I've seen on this primary:

https://twitter.com/MinnieElite/status/1211431004243673089?s=19