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The funny thing is, when the Europeans feel directly threatened, they then demand American action to rescue them from their own impotence.  Kosovo is a perfect example of that.  They couldn't even deal with the whole Yugoslav situation without the US taking the lead and doing probably 80% of the work.  But when America is threatened, the Europeans want no part of the common defense.

LMAO.

No outside of the former Yugoslavia was threatened by the situation. Do you think Germans were terrified of Milosevic?

Kosovo was a NATO operation done for humanitarian reasons. The US did most of the work because the US is the largest NATO country. Duh. No NATO country felt threatened by it and none were begging the US to come save them like you claim.

Oh and European nations did play a big role in Afghanistan, a case where the US was threatened. They were against Iraq because Iraq was no threat.

What's most hilarious is if Europeans and the American left hated America like you claim, they'd be open about it. Ask opebo what he thinks about religion, and you'll get a pretty clear answer. Ask me what I think of suburbs, it'll be the same. Ask an American leftist or European what they think of the US as a whole, not Bush. Is it going to be anything like what opebo says about religion or I say about suburbs? No. But you claim the American left and all of Europe hate America as much as opebo hates religion and I hate suburbs. So why hide it? If you have a hatred that big, I don't think anything would be held back. Of course you say I hate American because I hate Pinochet and have claimed I admire Fidel Castro despite me saying many times I do not like him.

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BRTD - I laugh at your characterization of the Kosovo War as a humanitarian mission.  If it was a humanitarian mission, then so is the Iraq War.  We attacked a country and removed a government from power, effectively.  Somalia was a humanitarian mission, but Kosovo was a war.  And it was against a country that was no threat to us.  Why are not as vehemently opposed to it as Iraq?  This war was done at the behest of the Europeans, who convinced a reluctant American administration to carry most of the weight in the war because they didn't want that nasty business going on in the back yard.  I recognize that the US is the largest single country in NATO, yet the European countries combined are at least as big as the US.  So then why is it that the US must make most of the military contribution?

Kosovo was an intervention into a single province, with reports of genocide going on. No government was removed. Milosevic was not removed until about 2 years later in a popular uprising by his own people. This has absolutely nothing to do with the Kosovo action, as his popularity actually increased during that time. It is much closer to Somalia than Iraq. It's actually much closer to Clinton's bombing of Iraqi military bases than anything else, since that's about all that happened. If you honestly think Milosevic fell because of the Kosovo War then I believe you are incorrect.

The Serbian government was no threat to other European countries either. You make it sound as if the Europeans were begging the US to come in to save them from Milosevic, when in fact no direction action against Milosevic was even taken as stated above.

As for your comments about the US having to take all the brunt and all that, you make it sound like that was a lot. How many US soldiers were killed in Kosovo?

I also love how you completedly ignored my opebo/religion, me/suburbs analogy. Come on, if all Europeans and American leftists are such rabid America haters, why not be as open about it?

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If you think the Kosovo war had absolutely nothing to do with Milosevic's fall, you're a fool.  But then I already knew that.

So then you just called John Ford a fool.

Milosevic was toppled after he tried to nullify election results in which he lost. What does that have to do with Kosovo?

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That's still hardly comparable to Iraq, and only would be if Milosevic was directly deposed by NATO. And like I said, you also called John Ford a fool. Then of course there's also the fact that it wasn't the NATO action that mainly caused him to withdraw from Kosovo, but rather pressure from Russia.