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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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« on: February 06, 2015, 11:37:01 AM »

LOLOL.

I'm not a fan of gay marriage, but still, allowing gays to marry is better than abolishing marriage entirely.

So I guess you were one of these people:

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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2015, 11:40:32 AM »

Yes, our state has had such disaster in the pass year after the gay marriage law went into effect.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2015, 09:13:22 PM »

But civil unions aren't even a Moderate Hero position here anymore. Hell they were pushed by far right Republican Mary Franson in 2013.

I am curious what his reading is though I'm sure it's hifly esque semantically nonsense.
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2015, 01:59:58 PM »





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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2015, 12:22:12 AM »

The whole bit about that children need parents of both genders to raise them makes little sense. Even if you believe that, it has little to do with the issue.

Let's imagine a bisexual woman who gets pregnant from a man, gives birth to a baby, and then later seperates from the father. She later gets with a lesbian, and they raise her son or daughter together. Now in what way does the child benefit from them being denied a marriage?
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2015, 09:18:31 AM »

I wanted an example that was completely seperated from the issues of gay adoption and surrogacy as well. But I don't see how it's weird, you should know that gay couples where one has a biological child are not tha uncommon. In fact I know of a lesbian couple with a son from Ingress who are the exact scenario I said above (even though I wasn't thinking of them at the time.)
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2015, 01:23:42 AM »

The cartoons were really just a "loltumblr" thing.

I wanted an example that was completely seperated from the issues of gay adoption and surrogacy as well. But I don't see how it's weird, you should know that gay couples where one has a biological child are not tha uncommon. In fact I know of a lesbian couple with a son from Ingress who are the exact scenario I said above (even though I wasn't thinking of them at the time.)

I was just playing.  I meant that conservatives would probably be put off by an example involving an out-of-wedlock birth to a sexually active bisexual.  That, plus the cartoon you posted earlier, probably would weird out the average swing voter on this issue Tongue

But that's a silly and childish attitude. It's sort of head in the sand, since we all know such out of wedlock births happen all the time (hell we could just make the original couple married and then divorced to resolve that issue, since divorce is pretty well accepted now.) They happen with plenty of purely heterosexual people too, but no one would throw a fit about her then marrying a different man in that scenario. But the ultimate question here is: How does the child benefit from their mother being able to marry a man but not another woman?
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