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« on: April 21, 2005, 09:18:37 PM »

I say a 2,2. Too much political upheaval and unstable government to get a 1,1
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2005, 10:05:03 PM »

Government instability is taken into account even if the law is followed through the upheavals. This is the main reason India, the Phillipines and a bunch mostly democratic countries in Africa only have 2s for political rights. We also have one of the leaders of an attempted coup about to be VP (not that he's a bad pick otherwise though).

Also 1,1 countries don't elect Naso and NixonNows.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2005, 10:48:47 PM »

I knew of it beforehand from Democratic Underground actually, although on there they were calling it a right wing front group due to its ratings of Cuba (this was during one of the pro- vs. anti-Castro debates of course)
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2006, 12:58:21 AM »
« Edited: March 27, 2006, 01:02:02 AM by Erasmia Pulchella »

bump.

Like Daniel said earlier today, we're almost like a third world nation in terms of attempted coups, revolutions and seccesionists (not like that's a bad thing, it just makes things more interesting.) In addition our elections are far from squeaky clean, what's the last one we had that didn't have major controversy or accusations of fraud? Governments and parties also tend to be unstable, parties rarely last long and resignations and effective nullification of election results do happen on a fair basis, let's not forget that no President has ever been reelected.

Still I'd say 3 for Political Liberties and 2 for Civil Liberties at the moment. The CL score would've probably dropped before, such as during the West Atlasia and Southeast crises.

Meanwhile Puerto Rico would be like a 7,6 if it was included under Disputed Territories.
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E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2006, 01:10:03 AM »

In addition our elections are far from squeaky clean, what's the last one we had that didn't have major controversy or accusations of fraud?

Major controversy doesn't necessarily mean the election wasn't clean.  Nor do accusations of fraud mean anything unless there actually was fraud.

Well no, but frequency of election irregularities are noteworthy. Countries which are the most part democratic but have lots irregularities and occaisional fraud by all sides tend to get around 3 (a good example is the Phillippines)


This isn't really a bad thing, because it encourages independent thought and stops parties from establishing long reigns of power.

It's not, but typically countries with such systems rather than established parties as institutions tend to more banana republic-ish and score lower. A few South American countries serve as examples, where parties are often just a loose coalition built around one person.

let's not forget that no President has ever been reelected.

To be fair, only one president has ever run for re-election in the first place.

Yeah, but that's another sign of the situation.

And countries which are mostly free and have democratic elections but frequent revolutionary and seccesionist movements (a good example is India) usually lose a few points too.

Of course, a 1,1 country would be rather boring, so this isn't a bad thing. Typically the closer to the middle, the more interesting, a dictatorship would also be extremely boring for obvious reasons.
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