Do you prefer the lyrical style of classic hymns or Christian hardcore?

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I won't even include Christian contemporary music, because no one here would vote for that crap.

But while some hymns are good, Christian hardcore wins. Like this:

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I mean sure you can't understand them in the actual song, but that's not the point.

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I don’t really see how those lyrics deviate from the typical style and tone of traditional hymns.  Same melodramatic approach; same overreliance on stale metaphors and imagery (“you are my rock”, etc)  I don’t see a major distinction apart from agenda perhaps.  Both styles are uninteresting. 

The difference is, this is what the second song's band sounds like (different song because that one isn't on YouTube): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt4Z-3rwgQ0

It's funny, when I was younger I would sometimes not find out bands were Christian until weeks after hearing them and sometimes not until after buying their records because I could never understand their lyrics anyway. Sometimes even after seeing them. Reminds me of a guy who said that he claimed his band was Christian so they could get booked at a church venue, and then played all their songs completely unedited. They got asked to come back again, despite the many f bombs that appear in their lyrics. Didn't get asked a second time and he said one of his band mates pointed out that someone who bought one of their records could read their lyrics sheet so it was probably known, but kind of funny.

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The difference is, this is what the second song's band sounds like (different song because that one isn't on YouTube): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt4Z-3rwgQ0

...yes...but...you made this thread about the lyrics.

True but the complete inability to understand them kind of adds an interesting angle I think. Especially if they're quite similar to hymns as noted. Which is kind of funny because of how many dumbs think it's impossible for any music with a similar lyrical style to hymns to SOUND like that and assume no type of that type of music is Christian, which has never made any sense to me. There is nothing inherently religious about any type of sound.

Also TJ: I don't think I'm incorrect when I say that there is literally (yes, I'm using that word exactly as I think it should be used) no group of people more likely to say things like "reject religion for Jesus" than Christian hardcore kids.

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Wow do I relate to this now:

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Yeah but Augustine was very far from the equivalent of an SJW in his time, unlike these guys.

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I actually know nothing of him.

Though Wikipedia says he pioneered "antiphonal chanting", and antiphonal vocals are a huge feature in many hardcore songs and shows up on my Pandora's traits all the time, including in that song I just quoted so I guess I have to give him credit for that.

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I think Madeline would actually like this one:

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The part in bold is notable because it's just before the breakdown so you can actually understand what he's saying (and because he's not really screaming at that point but doing the whole "half sobbing hardcore vocalist" thing.)

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Wow, this is one of the best Christian hardcore songs I've ever heard. Can't believe it eluded me for so long. It's actually musically complex, not just a bunch of moshy parts thrown together like so much Christian hardcore is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYXuS3rXuBQ

Lyrics are pretty good too. I was actually listening to this at work today and wanted to raise my hands.

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Here's a great example of why it's so stupid to say all modern day Christian music (which of course is not the same thing as all modern day CCM) is really vapid and stupidly written:

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Here's a great example of why it's so stupid to say all modern day Christian music (which of course is not the same thing as all modern day CCM) is really vapid and stupidly written:

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I don't think those lyrics are pointless at all BRTD, they clearly describe a person who is trying to commit their life to God in the midst of a struggle with despair. In fact, the lyrics specifically identify a point in the last line. It is true they lack theological rigor and undoubtedly are not becoming for use in the Holy Mass, but they are certainly teleological.

Well yeah that was exactly my point. Actually you contrasted it well since I was pointing out all modern day Christian music is NOT Sing a New Church type vapid drivel.

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Oh and BTW they were written by an Italian-American hipster Christian.

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What is Christian hardcore?

Hardcore music with a Christian message.

For that matter, what is hardcore music? Just heavy metal?

....no. No. NO. NO.

It's a rather diverse genre with many subgenres and a diverse arrangement of influences, but fundamentally it's an offshoot of early punk music, early hardcore punk is just punk made faster and louder. It then kind of developed and evolved in all sorts of different directions. The name is actually an anachronistic misnomer, a lot of hardcore music isn't even all that "hard", (for example take my current namesake or this from one of the biggest hardcore bands out today.

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Interesting this is YouTube's first hit for "Sing a New Church". It actually manages to make it sound quite different from what the lyrics would imply! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_WmI3WRMDI

I'm actually curious now in what choral and brass covers of Christian hardcore songs would be like now...

Actually the music in that video does sound vaguely familiar, I've heard something that sounds like that before....

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Oh so that's why the music for it sounded vaguely familiar! The only version of "Come Thou Font of Every Blessing" I've heard is the vaguely post hardcorish one with guitars and drums but I definitely recognized the melody.