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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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« on: March 13, 2005, 10:50:42 PM »
« edited: March 14, 2005, 11:26:03 PM by Nation of Ulysses »

Violent video games are not banned
Porn is legal and freely available
There is no draft
We have cheap postage rates
It's really easy to find rare collector vinyl and indie film DVDs here
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,417
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2005, 11:27:42 PM »

I can't believe I posted "violent video games are banned"! You could probably tell I meant "violent video games are NOT banned", obvious typo. That's better than in New Zealand or Germany.

PBrunsel, I don't mind opebo, but since I'm a Christian it's probably not too accurate to lump me in with him.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,417
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2005, 11:32:37 PM »

Also we have most of the best indie rock and punk bands and the foreign ones are at least likely to tour here at least once. Europeans miss out on lots of great bands that don't tour in Europe. America is the best place on earth to see touring indie bands.

Of course, this all basically only applies to decent cities (like where I live) and large inner metro cores. Not the suburbs, which is why they are utter trash.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,417
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2005, 12:01:59 PM »


Thank you, Nation of Ulysses - I was having trouble thinking of anything..

How dare you accuse our nation of not beeing free. Perhaps you would rather live in China or North Korea, where they have no freedom, but they have 100% totalitarian rule. You complain we don't have 100% freedom, so just take the nation that has the complete set of a government.


I don't see how helpful it is to say 'well it is better than China or North Korea, or Saudi Arabia.  Comparing ourselves to those nightmares is not setting a very highstandard.  Of course America is freeer than those places.   But it is also less free than most of Western Europe, and I would say only comparably free to some east asian countries. 

That's so untrue.  Most Western European countries have stricter gun-control, higher taxes and less free speech than the US. 

Europe isn't as free as the Europeans would like you believe.

Europeans are losing their freedom of speech in the name of political correctness.  I read that in France, an author is being prosecuted for writing a book critical of Islam.  We must fight to keep the liberals from imposing that here.

oh shut up, you're the one defending Islam when I trash it. And so is Bush when he says Islam is a "religion of peace". That's all the proof I need to know that Bush is a ing moron. Once again you are using a strawman. Do I look like someone who wants to stop criticism of Islam?
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,417
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2005, 12:03:47 PM »


Thank you, Nation of Ulysses - I was having trouble thinking of anything..

How dare you accuse our nation of not beeing free. Perhaps you would rather live in China or North Korea, where they have no freedom, but they have 100% totalitarian rule. You complain we don't have 100% freedom, so just take the nation that has the complete set of a government.


I don't see how helpful it is to say 'well it is better than China or North Korea, or Saudi Arabia.  Comparing ourselves to those nightmares is not setting a very highstandard.  Of course America is freeer than those places.   But it is also less free than most of Western Europe, and I would say only comparably free to some east asian countries. 

That's so untrue.  Most Western European countries have stricter gun-control, higher taxes and less free speech than the US. 

Europe isn't as free as the Europeans would like you believe.

gun control - I do not own guns and do not care to
higher taxes - big deal, you already know that I don't care about taxes once I'm making a certain amount since there's no reason for me to do anything like buy expensive clothes, an expensive car or a huge suburban home
less free speech - I'm not a Nazi sympathizer, so I don't care
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,417
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2005, 09:55:41 PM »

I was pissed because you implied liberals want to do such things, which I obviously don't. Furthermore I can't think of a single liberal on this forum defending Islam, only moderates. Name one liberal who has. And you defended Islam when I said that Muslims can not handle democracy.

Your defense of Islam can be found here: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=18329.15 and

Do you think I want to make it illegal to criticize Islam and that I have a positive view of it.

P.S. France does not have a leftist government.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,417
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2005, 10:25:09 PM »

well I've said that the Christians in Lebanon should kick all the Shiites out. Does that sound like I love Islam?

Also, find a single pro-Islam thing I've said, and name some liberals (not moderates) who defend Islam here. Yes, opebo and Marxist-Leninist are such big fans of Islam.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,417
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2005, 10:29:54 PM »

well I've said that the Christians in Lebanon should kick all the Shiites out. Does that sound like I love Islam?

Also, find a single pro-Islam thing I've said, and name some liberals (not moderates) who defend Islam here. Yes, opebo and Marxist-Leninist are such big fans of Islam.

Why do you keep talking?  Nobody said you're a fan of Islam.  What is your point?

you said that liberals want to make it illegal to criticize Islam.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,417
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2005, 10:41:31 PM »

Then name the liberals on here who are defending Islam. I only see moderates like Lunar, JFK and angus.
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