Dubya to Raise Money for Group That Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The reason why they want to obviously is insane but there is nothing wrong with Jews converting to Christianity. I don't view it as any different as some raised irreligious doing so or converting from one Christian denom to another. Remember to say otherwise is actually infringing on the freedom of those from a Jewish background ("sure other people have the right to convert to what they want but you don't. Your situation is special.")

None of that makes this group or Bush any less odious of course.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I know I've gotten into this debate arguing against the politically correct position many times, but I will point out that anyone who is simply on principle opposed to any conversion of Jews to Christianity is basically going to be entirely hostile to Christianity in general since converted Jews are exactly who started the first Christian communities and churches and spread it. There would be no Christian churches today without converted Jews. That's why comments like the rabbi's come across as a bit absurd to me. Now the crazy pre-dispensationalism stuff on the other hand and the reasons why people like say John Hagee support Israel and what they really believe the plan is for Jews and why groups like this target them is a whole other matter, but that's not necessarily what they're being attacked over.

I would be interested in seeing the rabbi quoted's response if asked what should a church do if a person from a Jewish background got involved, completing all the requirements for conversion if there were any and asked to be baptized and converted, and if the church should say "No, you're Jewish so that's a special case, we won't allow you to convert." Because that's flat out discrimination and actually anti-Semitic in itself (see Martin Luther's anti-Semitic writings that essentially promoted that...well not exactly just politely declining.) So essentially that's why I don't hold to a hierarchy of groups in acceptability to proselytize to or hold that it's ever wrong for someone to convert to another group simply because of what they were born into, the only criteria I'd ever use is the group incoming to (for example I would never approve of anyone converting to Scientology whether they were raised Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, Buddhist, irreligious or whatever, but that's simply because of my opinion of Scientology and is completely irrelevant to whatever group they came from. On the other hand it's tough to think of a scenario where I'd disapprove of someone converting to a liberal leaning Christian church, unless it was for entryist purposes.)