How did fans of these music genres vote in 2012?

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Country
Pop
Post-grunge
Pop Punk
Hardcore Punk
Metalcore
Christian Hardcore*
Christian Contemporary
Classical
Heavy Metal
Death Metal
Black Metal
Post-hardcore
Grindcore
Emoviolence
Christian Emoviolence**
Reggae
Indie Rock
Electronic
Classic Rock
Post-Rock

*It is worth nothing that there is actually a Christian "sound" in hardcore that is slightly different from non-Christian bands, so there is a musical differentiation, not just lyrical content. It's more moshy and has a far higher percentage of songs consisting of breakdowns.
**This includes about six bands total, none of which are active today.

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Christian Emoviolence - Are you sure this exists?

Absolutely. Examples: Sinking Steps...Rising Eyes, Lights of Nero, Edict of Milan, Fable, A Promise of Restoration

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Country - strong gop
Pop - depends on sub-genre; Taylor Swift - strong GOP; Katy Perry - leans GOP; Madonna - leans Dem; Lady Gaga - strongly democratic
Post-grunge - lean GOP
Pop Punk - lean GOP
Hardcore Punk - lean GOP
Metalcore - GOP
Christian Hardcore* - strong GOP
Christian Contemporary - ridiculoulsy GOP
Classical - toss-up
Heavy Metal - GOP
Death Metal - scary nihilistic rightwingers
Black Metal - scary nihilistic rightwingers
Post-hardcore - GOP
Grindcore - GOP
Emoviolence - GOP
Christian Emoviolence** - strong GOP
Reggae - strong Dem/green
Indie Rock - lean Dem
Electronic - lean Dem
Classic Rock - GOP
Post-Rock - GOP

*It is worth nothing that there is actually a Christian "sound" in hardcore that is slightly different from non-Christian bands, so there is a musical differentiation, not just lyrical content. It's more moshy and has a far higher percentage of songs consisting of breakdowns.
**This includes about six bands total, none of which are active today.

mostly white people music, no? Given the demographics, I would say most of the above probably lean GOP.

So by this logic, the coffee shop across the street from me which has a well over 90% white clientele has a mostly Republican customer base. And the people at the hundreds of shows I've been to which includes anti-Iraq War activism fundraisers and recently a fundraisers against the Minnesota gay marriage ban and Voter ID amendments are mostly Republicans as well. This is what a gathering of Republicans looks like! Oh and as this photo is almost all white people it's obviously that most people in it are Republicans:




Demographic simplification fail.

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Grindcore - Tossup (Probably most of them are apolitical)
Emoviolence - Very apolitical

You have obviously never read any grindcore or emoviolence lyrics.

Post-Rock - Lean GOP

Wha wha what? The only real difference between the fanbase of this and indie rock is that they are more likely to be stoners.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Country - strong gop
Pop - depends on sub-genre; Taylor Swift - strong GOP; Katy Perry - leans GOP; Madonna - leans Dem; Lady Gaga - strongly democratic
Post-grunge - lean GOP
Pop Punk - lean GOP
Hardcore Punk - lean GOP
Metalcore - GOP
Christian Hardcore* - strong GOP
Christian Contemporary - ridiculoulsy GOP
Classical - toss-up
Heavy Metal - GOP
Death Metal - scary nihilistic rightwingers
Black Metal - scary nihilistic rightwingers
Post-hardcore - GOP
Grindcore - GOP
Emoviolence - GOP
Christian Emoviolence** - strong GOP
Reggae - strong Dem/green
Indie Rock - lean Dem
Electronic - lean Dem
Classic Rock - GOP
Post-Rock - GOP

*It is worth nothing that there is actually a Christian "sound" in hardcore that is slightly different from non-Christian bands, so there is a musical differentiation, not just lyrical content. It's more moshy and has a far higher percentage of songs consisting of breakdowns.
**This includes about six bands total, none of which are active today.

mostly white people music, no? Given the demographics, I would say most of the above probably lean GOP.

So by this logic, the coffee shop across the street from me which has a well over 90% white clientele has a mostly Republican customer base. And the people at the hundreds of shows I've been to which includes anti-Iraq War activism fundraisers and recently a fundraisers against the Minnesota gay marriage ban and Voter ID amendments are mostly Republicans as well. This is what a gathering of Republicans looks like! Oh and as this photo is almost all white people it's obviously that most people in it are Republicans:




Demographic simplification fail.

I think you are the one vastly simplifying things here. You sound like Bandit transposing his own deeply-held views on his immediate environment and concluding that Occupy is a slumbering political force in Kentucky. Just because a couple hundred mostly white students or hipsters show up for a rally like that says little overall about the voting patterns of whites generally, even in MN.

This is a cute thread topic (albeit one whose author was immediate apparent from the title), but don't kid yourself into believing that demographics like race and income aren't a trillion times better an indicator of voting habits than what type of 'core' music someone's into.

That's not my point at all. I'm not talking about white generally, but whites that listen to these -core genres. Who tend young, in urban areas, and are definitely not high income (note the race and income bit at the end.) and who are WAY disproportionately non-religious. The point was very simplistic and basically assumed all mostly white groupings are Republican, in other words all mostly white counties would be Republican as well, which is obviously not true. Do you think the almost all white people in the coffee shop across the street from me are majority Republican? Or the kids in the video linked above?

My neighborhood is about 70% white in terms of voters (only barely majority white in population, but the non-whites actually have kids, and a lot of them aren't eligible to vote or have a language barrier) and it voted 89% for Obama. So even if every single non-white voter voted for Obama, that's still well over 80% for Obama. Now you'll probably say that whites in a largely hipster neighborhood near Uptown in Minneapolis are not representative of whites overall. Obviously that's true. But they are far more representative of whites that actually do listen to those genres than the country at large is. Remember I once did a thread about how hard it is to identify bands you listen to from counties that voted for McCain or Romney? And that's just COUNTIES, in terms of cities it'd be even harder (example La Dispute from Grand Rapids, Michigan, Romney county but obviously not city.) This whole subculture is not concentrated in parts of the country that vote Republican, or even where the whites vote Republican. Like compare how many shows are in Minneapolis to how many are in Michele Bachmann's district (and then consider the few that do happen there are all in the liberal part of St. Cloud...)

Do you seriously think most people who buy -core records and go to -core shows are Republicans? If so you'd think I'd at least SOMETIMES hear of a show that's a Republican fundraiser or a band that's supportive of conservative causes to counter out all the countless times I've heard the opposite...

Obviously this doesn't mean much for the voting patterns of whites overall, but as stated above, stating any mostly white group is always going to be Republican is no different than saying any mostly white county or area is always going to vote Republican.

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To answer your question, Zach, I think merely looking at the voting habits of young college educated low to moderate incomes and non-church going habits says infintely more about voting habits than whether said voters are into emoviolence vs. Hardcore.

But that's admitting there's a lot more to it than simply "oh these groups are mostly white so they are obviously mostly Republican". There are other factors involved. So the post is still rather ridiculous.